Tony Abbott is a "Liar"

True, when asked to simply name the lie they are proclaiming they can only resort to artifice and subterfuge to attempt avoiding the evidence to support slander they did not even create themselves.

The problem is they attempt to justify the Gillard and Rudd lies by proclaiming that Abbott is lying when he does not vote to his own statements. Is this a lie? No, it clearly demonstrates that Abbott is practicing better democracy. This is a good trait that the people wish, not the party or the politician. It is strange that these blind supporters of the ALP would not understand that their slander is actually proving their metal with their support...

Well give them a break Aussie, their handlers sold them the dump and they swallowed it hook line and sinker. Now, they realise there is a problem with their attempt to discredit Abbott and do not know what to do. The problem being, they do not know what they are talking about so subterfuge is their best.

Obviously not, I noted that both these detractors where referencing to the sides of politics in the American style of political persuasion without response. I am playing my hand here but as they have loudly declared their left lean, I was wondering if it was a good thing to be leaning toward communism. I am sure the ALP would not want their support by this. However, the Greens are very accepting of communistic persuasion.

 

So name the lie? Stop pretence of intellect and come forward and name it. Again, this is exactly why Gillard did not get her message across, she never gave it...

 

Stop playing the silly little denial games gazza! Don't be stupid, you've been given plenty of examples! There are countless more!

 

So you cannot name the lie you claim... It is so easy to prove me wrong... NAME THE LIE... but you cannot...

 

Gazza, you and your knight in shining armour may want to turn a blind eye to many of fony abbotts "lies", as in "plural", but unfortunately you guys are alone! Even "fruitloop" acknowledges the fact that Abbott is a liar and fony acknowledges that himself! If you're too challenged to watch the many examples and see the lies, that is your utter stupidity! There is no need for anyone to get caught up in your neurotic pedantic little games!

I WILL CONTINUE TO POSTS VIDEOS DEMONSTRATING ABBOTTS LIES! I'm not expecting them to penetrate duncish heads, but would expect them to provide insight to bright, open minds and the unbiased! This deceptive lying clown needs to continually be exposed! Best regards Garry!

 

What an eloquent way of saying you cannot name the lie (or lies if you like)... So far the videos do not demonstrate lies but your complete inability to know what you are demonstrating... So keep posting them, your attempt at slander is only working against you…

 

TV, you are helping people to understand how certain "people" can be easily "brain"washed, by their controllers. How do they do it? Hit you with a rolled up newspaper when you get it wrong? They wouldn`t use the "Book of ALP Good Ideas", it wouldn`t be heavy enough to even feel it.

 

Here is one lie Abbott told.

http://www.phonytonyabbott.com/lies-and-deceptions/tony-abbott-claimed-ets-electricity-bill-lie

You cannot say electricity bills have increased by $300 in March 2010, when the ETS was defeated for the second time in 2009, and dropped by Rudd in April 2010. That was a lie!!

Lets not try to pretend here that Abbott is some kind of Snow White.

 

The truth of the matter is that he lies as much as the rest (maybe not Gillard, Swan or Rudd). The problem is that the ALP does not even know what the lies are.

I have asked them to name the lie and nothing. The lies they proclaim actually show that Abbott is voting the wishes of the people and not his own wishes. Which is admiral, but I am not going to debate both sides because the ALP supporters are so inept they cannot put two and two together.

As I have stated before, I know he has lied and will continue too. Just because they cannot see it or find it does not mean I should lead them by the nose to it...

But as Aussie points out...."TV, you are helping people to understand how certain "people" can be easily "brain"washed, by their controllers." Clearly the truth because they do not even find the lie themselves they post and claim the lie from another...

 

Just objecting to mindless hysteria.

 

Hysteria!.....please! That's all we get at the mention of the labor party!....lol

Now have a quiet chat with ya buddy who relentlessly askes the same dumb question in this thread! Could you let him know I won't be getting involved in his pedantic little games!

 

Dummy spit... the question you cannot answer...

Poor TV. cannot name the lie because he does not know he proclaims a decent trait of democracy while demonstrating the drone quality of the ALP...

 

WTF do you mean name the lie? Look at the videos gazza! Simple? Are you special or something?.....lol! I hope you're not because I would be feeling extremely guilty at the moment!

 

Poor TV, I am referring to YOUR hysteria. You still haven`t made any valid points, other than tantrums, and crying about your nappy rash.

 

As most people are aware, when it comes to politics, I don’t play favourites. I’m not here to point fingers, or play immature games of one-upmanship about which politicians or political parties tell more lies and deceptions. In my estimation, they would all tell as many lies to the public as possible, to keep their lucrative tax payer funded jobs.

Arguing about which politician or political party is the bigger lie is a distraction, and a deliberate deflection from the real issues that is effecting Australia and the Australian people.

If certain brain-dead zombies want to live in a fantasy world believing that Gillard/ALP or Abbott/coalition don’t lie, then who really gives a squirrels nut. They are only deceiving themselves, which is the worse thing anyone can do in life.

You will find T.V makes a living off some political/union party, so he/she somehow how to justify their bad incompetent behaviour just so he/she can live with themselves. Some people like T.V cannot accept the truth that the people who pay his/her salary are really a group of mongrels, and that’s why people like him/her can never accept or confront the truth, because their pay cheque is more important than their own morals, ethics and principals. Its just to shocking for them to think about, so they switch off and deflect everything with childish frequency. You must have noticed that?

That clown will never put his/her morals, ethics & principals before his/her pay cheque. It would be like expecting a snake to roll over and get his tummy scratched!!

My uncle once told me a very clever adage I never forgot. If someone knows their hair is on fire, but won't put it out. Then why would any rational person keep bothering to tell that person their hair is on fire time and time again - it just make you look as stupid as the person who’s hair is on fire.

 

The only way politicians can get away with being the low lives that we`ve seen of late, is if we let them get away with it. I`ll make you a promise. If Abbott gets into power, and fails to raise the bar to a hell of a lot higher level than these present maggots, I`ll devote all of my energy and time, to getting rid of him. I don`t expect anyone to be too worried about that threat, but I promise to do all I legally can.

As for this trivial non event of a thread. It makes Abbott appear to be a saint, if they have to make crap up to discredit him.

 

The sad fact is most Australians are completely illiterate when it comes to policies. This isn't a problem restricted to the poor and uneducated, either. I know many very intelligent people studying engineering, law, etc who all base their political affiliation on the personalities of the party leaders.

The problem is, right now Kevin Rudd is a significantly more likable candidate than the alternative. Most people base their decisions off petty facts like these. Thus, the coalition has a serious problem. They should boot out Abbott and replace him with Turnbull. This would give them a solid victory at the next election, at well as better serve the Australian people.

Yet we're stuck with this bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Admittedly Labor did the right thing - representing the people by removing Gillard. Let's hope the Liberals do the same.

 

I understand that politicians are extremely dubious about what they say to the media, and how they answer questions, as the media is always looking for the “angle” and story highlight to demonstrate an untruthful character when it suits “their” purpose.

Politicians have become so scared and paranoid of be entrapped by the media they embrace, that they have forgotten to be honest, and to live up to this GOD like image and perception they have given themselves. They can no longer acknowledge the facts that all humans make mistake by simply saying: - sorry, or, I made a mistake, or I changed my mind, which any normal individual is capable of doing.

Politicians have courted this disaster, by elevating themselves to the status of GOD’S that can do no wrong. Maybe its time politicians took their heads out of the clouds, and came back down the ladder, and realised they are just normal fallible public servants, employed by the citizens of Australia.

I understand what you are saying about Abbott, but I have grave concerns regarding the mans politics, intelligence and integrity. For any individual to tell me not to believe anything he say’s unless its written down on paper is a major concern for me. I have seen Tony speak numerous times, and watched TV interviews, and his overall knowledge and inflections don’t inspire me. He sometimes talks and behaves like someone who is punch-drunk.

I might be completely off base here, but Abbott seems to be sliding for an election victory - not on policy he has made, or on his own merits, but on the coat-tails of a dysfunctional Labor Party.

Abbott keeps squeaking that he is going to stop the boats and he is going to do this and that, but so far, I have heard NO details on how the boats are going to be stopped, or how other policies are going to happen and be implemented. I have a right to know what these policies are before I cast my vote.

 

It's extremely unrealistic for everyone to understand all policy detail. The Swiss themselves complain that most policy is too difficult to understand, under a system that some on here believe is the ideal system. This is probably one of the reasons why many Australians look to the most perceivably trustworthy representative. Gillard was perceived as a liar, along with Abbott, but Gillard was obviously perceived less trustworthy. Rudd obviously is perceived to be more trustworthy than Abbott, but...........Turnbull due to his bipartisan support of various policy and standing by his beliefs on numerous issues is perceived to be more honest than Rudd IMO!

Your right, the people want a Turnbull and Rudd showdown. As I have already stated, every leader brings with them very different policies within parties. Turnbull supports an ETS whereas Abbott doesn't. Turnbull is a republican, whereas Abbott is a monarchist etc. Specific leaders bring with them their own values and beliefs therefore, specific leaders are important to people, due to their influence on party policy.

 

I'd argue it goes deeper than that. People have straight up zero knowledge about how our system of government works - they don't understand how a Westminster system with the executive within Parliament works, nor how the American Senate model was integrated. Sure, they know that they should vote for their preferred leaders, but beyond that they're pretty clueless.

Even when it comes to saying why they prefer the leaders they've voted for - they either give some explanation based on inherited party affiliation or say that they could have a beer with him. This is precisely why the Democratic state fails. The people are ignorant, and will always be.

 

Gotta give people a little bit more credit than that! We are quite a successful country and that doesn't occur from complete ignorance

 

We're not unintelligent, we just don't care about politics that much.

 

Been there done that, So far simple speculation. So what is the lie? Name it. Tell us why you think they are lies... Just because you post somebody else's video who proclaim them as Abbott's lies, does not mean they are lies...

 

Wake up to yourself garry! Seriously, stop being an utter idiot!

 

Yep, we're not dumb, but we can be a little complacent and a little lazy! People don't want to have to worry about politics, their lives are too busy! I suppose people want to just put there faith in someone they perceive to be honest enough to make their lives comfortable while they focus on the things they need to focus on!