Tornadoes and Storms from Kentucky to Northeast

At least 2 are dead and 27 million people are dealing with severe storms, flooding, and heavy wind.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/severe-storms-flooding-rain-tornadoes-leave-path-de
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In the past 24 hours, there have been 12 reports of tornadoes across six states — Alabama, Illinois, Tennessee, Ohio, Georgia and Kentucky. Multiple EF-1 tornadoes were confirmed in Jessamine, Anderson, Bourbon, and Nelson counties in Kentucky, as well as in Prospect across Jefferson and Oldham counties, with 95 mph to 110 mph winds.

Many in the wind-battered states are waking up to the severe damage: homes stripped down to their metal bones, roofs ripped off buildings and power lines torn down.

Last year, scientist started talking about tornado alley moving eastward. And here we go! Kentucky got hit the hardest.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/watch-out-tornado-alley-is-migrating-eastward/

5-11-2023
Tornado outbreaks are moving from Texas and Oklahoma toward Tennessee and Kentucky, where people may not be prepared

 

Here we go again.... It's like we've never had severe weather events in the past.

Every severe weather event from now on till forever is going to be blamed on climate change.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Florida has more hurricanes during this next hurricane season. Like we have since before the indigenous people roamed the peninsula.

It seems to me that tornado activity is always on the increase during spring

 

I didn't mention "Climate Change" anywhere in my post. But since you brought it up, it is true that warmer weather allows the atmosphere to hold more water, and making conditions ripe for tornadoes. The question isn't whether or not Climate Change caused an event. As you stated, these events have always occurred. The question is whether the event was more intensified due to Climate Change, and I think on a broad basis the answer is resoundingly "YES". The scary part - the world is in the very early stages of Climate Change.

 

Undoubtedly man has some impact on climate but we could sit here and argue forever about the extent of it but what is absolutely terrifying.... Is thinking that the government can fix it and that we should give them the power to do so.

 

I believe you're right that citizens need to initiate the changes - from education to purchases to habits. I have no problem with government boosting a new technology along (i.e. tax credits). It's not a lot of money - a pittance next to even the smallest military expenditures. The incentives have proved to be successful. Case in point - residential solar panels - prior to Obama, there were very few PV installations. Hybrid cars, Smart appliances, etc.

 

I just don't believe anything should be forced by the government. This idea of having all cars electric by a certain year is a primary example.

The government always uses fear in order to grab power. In the case of climate change it's the biggest power grab ever. What greater fear then you'll destroy the planet if you don't let us take control?

 

And right from the link.... It's being blamed on climate change.

Tornadoes also are more likely to develop when the local atmosphere is unstable, “and warming increases instability,” says Zuohao Cao, a tornado expert at Environment and Climate Change Canada, who co-led a recent study on storm touchdown locations. Climate change is warming the Gulf of Mexico as well, which can send generous amounts of water vapor into the southeastern U.S.

 

A tax incentive is not FORCED. You don't have to buy what is being incentivized. Now some might say that it favors certain people, but most taxes are that way. People who don't use roads, still pay for them.

 

I know. Some posters insist on steering every discussion to their favorite political topics, be it guns, gays, immigration, climate change etc.

We are in middle of the tornado season (the spring), and it seems every year we get several of these fronts moving from West to East spawning tornadoes. Lucky for me, Florida never gets the big ones, only small ones.

 

You didn't read the article he posted did you? It talks about climate change right there in it for anyone that actually went to the link and read the article

 

Everyone uses roads even if they don't drive on them themselves. The stuff you buy in almost any store was transported to the store on roads. Soanyone that buys stuff in a store benefits from roads.

 

He's a "tornado expert". And he used the words "more likely"

Some truth to that, but not completely. Almost all roads require General Fund money, which comes from Sales Tax, which the person pays when they buy the "stuff". That should be more than enough to cover their share of roads, but they are taxed well beyond that. It's people who drive on the roads who put wear and tear on the roads, but people who don't drive are paying for them too.

 

You picked up on it, because you are the only one who cares. The OP didn't mention it. All I know is that we are in peak tornado season and these things happen every year. If someone wants to pin it on climate change, they can go right ahead, but don't drag me into it.

 

Then maybe next time you should read the article before you go accusing people of trying to steer the conversation. It's right there in the conversation link to the article.

I picked up on it because I went and read the article before posting

 

Why do you ALWAYS feel like someone is accusing you of something?

Go ahead. Make it about climate change if that's what you want to talk about, but leave me out of it. I shared my opinion about the thread topic, and that's that.

 

I have been but do you remember who posted what's in bold below? Maybe someone hacked your account and you didn't really post it?


" I know. Some posters insist on steering every discussion to their favorite political topics, be it guns, gays, immigration, climate change etc. "

 

Yes, what I said is factually correct, and in this thread it was you (again), but why you take is as an "accusation" is beyond me. I was merely stating a fact.

 

Who told you that "General Fund" dollars, which are federal, come from sales taxes which are local/ Sales taxes have nothing at all to do with the the Interstae Road System. Ever travel on I-95? I-5? any Interstate highway? Sales taxes have nothing at all to do with it.
If you live in Brooklyn and buy hamburger made from cows in Texas, you SHOULD help pay for highways.

 

This last storm system was scary. So many states got hit. It even passed over me last night up in New York State. Thankfully it had weakened by that time. We still got some downed branches last night as the latest round of old trees collapsed.

And, I don't even know what I'll do when it comes time for me to retire and move to a southern state. I'm thinking now that this happens with the weather, moving into a mobile home park down in Georgia is out of the question.

How do people live in these states?

 

If you can feel safe in a blue state... you'll have no problem simply with weather... anywhere.

 

Actually, I live on the East End of Long Island, New York. As an island surrounded by water, I've got a natural buffer zone from the sea, which is the mild climate away from the cold snowstorms of upstate New York.

 

And just to mention, I've got recurring dream nightmares that I am in a mobile home, and I have to run outside and take shelter beneath a blanket as some sort of cyclone blows over in order to survive. I sure wouldn't want that to happen, but that's exactly what you're supposed to do because mobile homes aren't rated to survive a tornado.

 

bs. Ky experiences tornado season every spring. It is scary af. I lost my house here in Houston to Harvey and it was a disaster, no doubt about it. Changed my life, literally. Still not comparable though to a wildfire or a serious tornado. I was still able to salvage some stuff and the house itself is capable of being repaired, still haven't done so yet though. It'll be seven years in just a little over 5 months. It's a valuable location so I don't mind keeping up with the property tax rent. Maybe I'll refurb it this year, maybe not.

Climate alarmism sucks, don't buy into the hype.

 

I lived on Lonk Islant when I left the Army. I lived in Syosset. (I used to joke that folks on Lonk Islant never visited the Continental United States since it was a ten hour drive on the LIE, the longest thinnest parking lot in the world). They would sometimes go to Disneyland and walk away thinking there was nothing in the Continental US but talking ducks.) When I was kid in Westchester, we used to talk about how you needed to take weeks off to get to Long Island and back due to the traffic.

 

I don't know how long ago that was. And I haven't been on the west side of Long Island, New York in years, but, out east, traffic really fell after 2005 (the run up to the great recession and all that) and it never recovered. Of course most of the East End has its economy based on tourism. So all the traffic has lightened up and that's good for travelers, but times are tough here economically.