Trans athletes take 1st and 2nd place in Chicago women’s cycling event

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  1. dairyair

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    I am cheering extra hard to see that flopping in the sea.
    I guess you lied about doing it though. You should already be at sea flopping away.
     
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    I find it very strange that the militant feminists are so quiet on this one.

    On an aside, can I win race based government contracts if I associate as a black man?
     
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    Just how long do you think it takes a blue whale to flop 60 miles to the Sea?

    I have to stop every few miles and clear me blowhole out of gravel from the road.
     
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    In most cases the “O” designates the complete absence of a chromosome. In some cases there is a fragment and yes, that fragment has only X chromosome genes. So all XO individuals are female as you correctly point out later because there is no SRY gene.

    Nice to see there are still some folks out there that believe in genetics! :)
     
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    Discrimination means to see differences. Why and how makes differences good or bad. You do it every day, deciding what is good or safe, wise or foolish, or downright stupid.
    Transgenders are people basically unhappy with who they perceive themselves to be, and believe they will escape that unhappiness by becoming something else. Yes, you can come up with a dozen dodges for the why on that, but that is the truth. The genetics are biological absolutes. The cosmetics change appearances, damage function- but do not alter the fundamental biology. It's like printing a copy of a $100 bill on a quality inkjet printer- no matter how good it looks, it's still a counterfeit. A fake.

    Life already has enough difficulty and confusion without people thinking they can declare themselves to be what they are not, violate all the social values and rules, and demand the world help them believe their own delusion- to escape the person they dislike being, which will always be with them. Regardless of how complete the appearance and illusion may be, those people know, every minute of every day- that they are fakes. That is morally depressing, a bad life decision that can be irreversible. Makes the problem they seek to escape vastly worse. As the old saying- frying pan to fire, but in this case.... hidden inside, a living hell.

    I feel sympathy for people who can't find themselves or accept themselves, that is a major challenge of life for everyone.
    But I have no sympathy for those who decide that the solution is to abandon themselves and pretend they are something else.
    I doubt you want to be given counterfeit money or goods- so I have to wonder why you would think counterfeit people should be acceptable.
     
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    not a blueprint, did you watch the video?
     
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    Did you get pushed aside from a man in a sports contest like these women? Racism isn’t even in the same realm as this conversation so get on topic. This is about men dominating in women sports
     
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    2% is less than 1.7%? LINK: Percentage of Redheads by Country 2023 (worldpopulationreview.com)

     
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    If two men win first and second place in a women's cycling event, it isn't a women's cycling event. It's two turds in a broth. So, no thanks. I'll pass.
     
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    They've got some balls! I feel bad for the ladies that trained hard only to be beaten by cheaters.
     
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    Sports scholarships are often always tied to how well you do in sports. If you don't do good then you can lose your scholarship, or never even get one. A male pretending to be female can push real women out of scholarship programs. Not to mention any awards lost.

    LINK: Runner Chelsea Mitchell who lost to trans athletes: 'This is about fairness' (nypost.com)
     
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    this is why it's allowed

    https://www2.ed.gov/policy/rights/guid/ocr/sexoverview.html

    "Title IX states “No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance[.]” All federal agencies that provide grants of financial assistance"

    when the law was created, it was women wanting to join men's sports, etc.... no one ever saw it being used in the reverse - but the law is the law until it's changed

    I think the law does much good for equal rights for women, but we also have to decide, are there some separations of the sexes that are acceptable to society and how to put that into the law (that falls on Congress)
     
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    Except what is happening now isn't based on sex. Its based on feelings.
     
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    it’s based on the biological sex of the player

    I will admit, when a teen girl wanted to join the boys football team, I supported it, but never saw it going in this direction
     
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    I did. His problem is that his premise is flawed. His assertion is that because there are multiple genes involved in any given characteristic that there’s no pattern or as he’s termed it “blueprint”. That’s incorrect. Just because you can show that multiple genes are involved doesn’t mean that a) the genes which are involved aren’t involved consistently across every person and b) that every characteristic is governed by a multiplicity of genes.

    The simple fact is that there has never been a human being alive who is a male without the SRY gene. It’s an impossibility.
     
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    not just multiple genes, probability is involved even if you have the genes - thus the example of the marble, sure some genes may be almost 100%, but some less so
     
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    For trans people its based on feelings vs sex, not sex vs sex. Sex vs sex is what Title IX is supposed to be about. Not feelings vs sex.
     
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    So how you look as far as your outward apperance is what makes you a woman?
     
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    My point exactly
     
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    Is it? How do you know that - the very presence of intersex muddies these waters
     
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    She came fifth not behind trans athletes but behind other women. She was upset because she tied with a trans athlete who also came fifth in the race - and I would not rely on the nypost to accurately report the time of day!
     
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    Nothing to do with felling, it's the birth gender people are complaining about, unless you're saying it's just your feelings
     
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    Did you even read the Post story?
     
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    Nope! As I said I don’t think the nypost can be relied on to accurately report the colour of the sky at midday
     
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