Trayvon Martin: Typical teen or troublemaker?

This is an event I wouldn't wish on anyone. One set of parents had to bury their son and the other set has to fight and try to keep their son out of prison.

No matter which side of the fence you take in this case I am pretty sure it is one that you hope you never have to face.

Stephen Martin, 21. "We all had to go to school. We all had to graduate. He was on a path to that. Our parents would accept nothing less."


This kind of stood out too me coming from his cousin.

 

What does it matter? Troublemaker or not, murder is not justified.

You should find that typical teen and troublemaker are not mutually exclusive. In fact, troublemaking is rather typical for a teen!

 

Whoa!!!!!!

Move over Jeffrey Dahmer!

 

I wish he had just walked home to his dad's place. But, I think he confronted and attacked Zimmerman. When, he began to beat a prostrate George Zimmerman MMA-style, he forfeited his life.

 

So you are saying that every teenager who has smoked a joint, been suspended from school and likes MMA is on their way to being Jeffrey Dahmer.

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I can't figure out how you confront and attack someone who found you "suspicious" and is chasing you.

 

No.. I was being sarcastic.. : )

If this were true I should be eating corpses right now.

 

He wasn't being chased. If he was, he could have ran to his dad's house a few doors down or outran the chubby little Democrat- George Zimmerman.

You know this. We've been over it many times.

 

My bad I misunderstood your post.

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Explain the difference of following someone and chasing someone with a loaded weapon.

You don't really know if he had an opportunity to run to where he was staying or not you just AssUMe he did.

 

Cadence. Zimmerman lost sight of Martin and satyed on the phone with 911 talking normally. He was clearly NOT in foot pursuit and the amoutn of time that he was on the phone AFTER losing sight of TM means that TM could have easily gone home of put many, many yards between GZ and himself. But, TM did not flee or even walk to his dad's door. No, he stuck around and confronted GZ. Then, he punched GZ in the nose and got on top of him. He began to beat GZ MMA-style, and that is when GZ was justified in stopping the beating.

 

As he was talking with 911 he was on the move.

Sure he was in foot pursuit, now please tell me where the video is of him standing still.

How do you know Trayvon didn't run on someone's back porch to hide from the Coward.

That is that you AssUMe he did.

Ok, now if that is the case then how did the Coward shoot him 40' from where he claims he was suckerpunched, knocked down, pinned down and beaten MMA style at.

 

Trayvon Martin took off RUNNING, and GZ lost sight of him. His dad's place was a few doors away. GZ continued to calmly talk to the 911 dispatcher for 116 seconds. There was NO foot chase.

TM has plenty of time to go home. He chose not to. This is the hard cold fact that you cannot face. You cannot face that TM was the aggressor.

Listen for yourself from 2:11 to 4:07. TM had all the time in the world to get home safely.


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Listen to the eyewitness:

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Another eyewitness puts GZ on the ground in a red shirt.


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Why was Trayvon under obligation to hide from George?

Would you expect that from your son?

Would you expect your son to act like an adult and say,"why are you following me?"

Give it some thought.. George had an opportunity to identify himself...and diffuse the situation.. which any average security guard or LE would have done. They are NOT menacing.. rather friendly.

 

Margot, since you quoted me. Do you deny that TM had time to get home??

 

Why would he flee? He wanted the cops to question TM because of the prior break-ins.

 

Yah I just realized that and deleted but not before you caught me.. : (

 

So what? Why should TM be obliged to hide from George?

Do you have any teen-aged children?

Do YOU give GZ permission to track and kill them because of his Walter Mitty fantasies?

 

Margot, I'll answer your questions, but I need a direct answer first. Yes or no?

 

Oh horse manure.. read the evidence documents. 7 of the 8 burglaries were because the houses had been left OPEN.

People don't DO that when there is crime "epidemic".

GZ's neighbor.. Emmanuel Burgess was already in jail.

 

Margot, please provide a source for that and a link to it in order for us to take it seriously.

 

Again how do you know what the Coward was doing while he was on 911, as a matter of fact, he was asked was he following him and his reply, "Yes". Now after the dispatcher told him, "we don't need you to do that". Tell us how you know for a fact that he did just that.

Your right I can't because there is no way that I or you know that he could have or did either one and if you do please explain how you know that.

If someone is scared you do one of two things. 1. run 2. hide. Now we don't know for a fact which one he as doing.

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I have heard the witnesses and how many have changed their stories?

 

Because the 911 tape evidence clearly recorded a conversation that would not have been possible, if he were trying to chase a teenager down to the spot where the assault, beating, and shooting took place. There was 116 seconds of conversation between when GZ noted that TM had took off running and when GZ finished his 911 call. You simply cannot accept this reality.

I know that because of the distances involved and the 911 call evidence. TM had ample time to simply go home. Again, you cannot accept this reality.

Or, attack. And, the physical evidence and eyewitness evidence points to TM not fleeing or hiding, but rather confronting, sucker-punching, and beating a prostrate GZ until he was finally shot dead by a screaming, bloody, beaten GZ.

I put more weight on their original early statements before this case became controversial and threats were made toward GZ's life. That sort of thing tends to spread fear into witnesses.

 

Druggie Trayvon was pretty stupid. He wasn't going to graduate and he brought Skittles to a gun fight.

 

People who have no history of violence usually don't expect to be any kind of fight. They usually don't expect to encounter a wannabe cop with a history of violence and anger issues. To bad Trayvon wasn't exercising his 2nd amendment rights. Better start letting kids conceal and carry so they can protect themselves from egotistical dangerous pricks.

 

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