Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Yeah, it was.

    And then tRaitor tRump made it worse by "falsifying business records" (AGAIN) to cover it up and defraud the NY tax authority.

    I think we're just starting to see why it took 34 charges to bring this case to trial.

    Oh, yeah ... lol
    :roll:

    (I used to think lol was for "laugh out loud", but I'm beginning to think on PF,at least, it stands for "Wild Bill Kelso"; since that's how you most always sign your posts)
     
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    Indeed,
    Expect it to be used at his trial by prosecutors.
     
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    But how can Trump’s supporters come to his rescue on this one, call Trump a liar? Not what he meant? Dementia?
     
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  5. Izzy

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    Is this about the money Stormy owes Trump?

    'Trump lawyers say Stormy Daniels refused subpoena outside a Brooklyn bar, papers left ‘at her feet’

    "Trump’s lawyers are asking Judge Juan M. Merchan to force Daniels to comply with the subpoena. In their filing, they included a photo they said DellaPorte took of Daniels as she strode away.

    Daniels’ lawyer Clark Brewster claims they never received the paperwork. He described the requests as an “unwarranted fishing expedition” with no relevance to Trump’s criminal trial.'


    cont:
    https://apnews.com/article/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-d3dce88566bafb714dbb5c1acd3e4a83
     
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    His supporters are irrelevant.
    His lawyers have to try the rescue.
     
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Tax evasion isn't even a charge. Where the hell do you people come up with this?...lol
     
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    Same place you source 99.9% of your posts......lol.
     
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    But he did “falsify his business records”. Why the hell do you people think accountants go to school and pass exams to become Certified, as in CPA. There are laws governing how businesses records must be kept. But we’re seeing tRaitor tRump doesn’t believe they apply to him.

    I think this trial should be very educational for him. Like, why yes! Yes, the laws that apply to all other Americans DO apply to you too Mr. tRaitor tRump.
     
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    :roflol:

    ;Kimmel Roasts Trump for Trying to Pass Alleged Hush Money as ‘Legal Expense’
    "He claims he didn't have sex with Stormy Daniels; he just paid her 130 grand out of the goodness of his heart," quipped the late-night host Tuesday
    APRIL 17, 2024
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Are you denying Trump filed a motion to dismiss yes or no?

    Are you unaware of the judges contributions and his daughters political fundraising on the trial yes or no? I'm not going to waste my time proving things you should already know if you already know them. Do you?
     
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    So you don't know what is in the indictment and for what Trump is being charged?

    And you come here and expect everyone to fill you in or something?
     
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    To avoid the unnecessary embarrassment to him personally, his wife and his company..........yea people do it for lots of reasons. Nothing illegal either and not a campaign finance issue so said the FEC, the DOJ and not a state legal matter so said Braggs predecessor as did Braggs previously

    But I still want to know what happened to the "it was consensual sex and none of our business" and those that pursued such things were "panty-sniffers"?
     
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    You think there is a tax charge here? REALLY?
     
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    A record to himself? It was his PERSONAL record of his PERSONAL spending. Not a public company. If he defrauded someone it was HIMSELF. And a minor entry error at that. There were NO tax consequences.

    And the statute of limitations ran out long ago so why is this in court?
     
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    I know, but I’m beginning to wonder if you do.
     
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    You think that's what I said? REALLY?
     
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    Really? Then why are there several checks to Michael Cohen drawn on tRump business account and signed by tRaitor tRump being introduced as evidence?

    Apparently you’re wrong about the statute of limitations. 8)
     
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    Ask the Judge and Humpty's**** Lawyers.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological
    *Built the New York skyline
     
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    A reminder.
    Bragg has the evidence/communication that right before Stormy was to be paid about 2 weeks before the election Trump told Cohen to hold off as long as he can because if the news got out after the election it wouldn't matter.
    That shows that Trump did not pay her because of his concern about wifey and family finding out.


    The FEC said they don't have the man power, they are seriously backlogged and the DOJ is doing an investigation.
    The DOJ's claim is they DON"T indict a sitting president.
    If he wasn't running for president then it would be considered consensual sex but since he was running voters have a right to know this married candidate payed off 2 women, one affair with a Playboy Bunny and a romp with a porn star.
    One paid in August before the Hollywood Access tape became public and the other right after the tape.
     
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    Hot damn!
    Trump was thinking.
    Imagine If prosecutors and defense lawyers had "unlimited" strikes without cause?
    Trump needs to make it his mission to make it so.
    OMG!

    'On trial off-day, Trump complains about jury selection process for his criminal case'

    'I thought STRIKES were supposed to be 'unlimited' when we were picking our jury? I was then told we only had 10, not nearly enough when we were purposely given the 2nd Worst Venue in the Country," he wrote in a post on Truth Social, before decrying the criminal cases against him as "election interference" and part of a "witch hunt."

    Under New York law, each side does have an unlimited number of strikes “for cause,” but the judge presiding over the case, Juan Merchan, can decide whether or not that cause is worthy of a strike.


    https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143226863
     
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    No one is disputing she was paid for her extortion, what don't you get it was not illegal? And news would get to his wife and business associates and and possible investors and him being a public celebrity by trade. It's NOT illegal to pay someone for a NDA. And spare me Cohen the known perjurer. Jack Edwards was charged by tge FEC for the same thing and he was convicted and it was overturned by the SCOTUS fir the same reason.

    AND you keep forgetting Bragg is trying to convict him of a crime for which he has no jurisdiction he cannot charge and prosecute people for federal campaign finance violations.


    [k
    They both investigated YEARS ago and found no violations and they can't slough off federal prosecutions to local yokel DA's.

    He hasn't been a sitting president for 4 years. They found no campaign finance violations.

    Clinton WAS President and it was IN the OVAL OFFICE WITH A SUBORDINATE FEDERAL EMPLOYEE...on the clock even. Oh stop digging your hole here.

    You never knew he was a well known very active New York playboy for years? This comes as a surprise? I think most voters knew.
     
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    So you can't tell me what is this underlying felony, why not without it Bragg can't bring the case.
     
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    IOW they don't.
     
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    His PERSONAL business. NOT the CAMPAIGN. It's a record of how he soent his miney in his business for his personal accounting and if no tax consequence. A misdemeanor even if applicable and long since statute if limitations.

    Since when is it against the law to pay for and keep a nondisclosure agreement not disclosed? Isn't that their purpose?
     
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