Trump appears to have been done in by.......pardon the pun........

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Apr 27, 2024.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Your argument is at best specious as well as spacious. Running a political campaign does not mean that everything you do is a campaign expense.
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Another straw man. What I actually said was that spending money or providing anything of value to help a campaign is a campaign contribution. Can you address what I actually said?
     
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    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    No, I understand the difference perfectly.

    What the House Republicans tried against Biden was a political prosecution, which is why, under our system, if fell apart so spectacularly

    What is happening to Trump is a criminal prosecution which is why we have an indictment and now a trial.
     
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    When was Biden prosecuted for anything? News to me.
     
  5. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    To whom is a campaign donor required to report a donation by law, and what is that law?
     
  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The FEC. I'll Google the law for you when I'm back from vacation.
     
  7. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    The attempt to gin up a impeachment of Biden.
     
  8. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    If I send a check to a political candidate, I have to file a report with the FEC? You can't be serious.
     
  9. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The campaign reports it to the FEC. You report it on your taxes.
     
  10. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Ah. That clarifies if for me. In this case, I don't believe the Trump campaign considered it campaign donations. They viewed it as hush payments. I don't believe any of his romantic trysts were running for office.
     
  11. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Hush money payments to benefit the campaign are campaign contributions.
     
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  12. Nwolfe35

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    It doesn't matter what the Trump campaign considered it. What does the LAW consider it?

    I can walk into a bank convinced that all the money in it is mine and demand it all while presenting a gun.
    Since I am sincerely convinced that the money is mine, I don't consider it bank robbery. That doesn't matter. I will be charged with bank robbery.
     
  13. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Of course. My response was in response to another post and your response took it out of context. The prosecutors in New York have not explained what law Trump broke. They have just brought witnesses designed to hurt his reputation. I'm not sure Trump's reputation can be hurt more than it has been hurt over the past 7 years. Perhaps they will explain it in the future. Perhaps their star witness that is an accused serial liar will provide a coup de gras. We shall see. In my view it is appropriate for a political prosecution to fall apart and I think this one will do no better than the fraud prosecution in Georgia where nobody was defrauded.
     
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    They have explained which laws he broke. They are in the indictment. You can't get an indictment without explaining which laws were broken.
     
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    That didn't answer the question. You intimated that republicans had prosecuted him. Impeachment is not a prosecution. It is a words and a political ones, not a judicial ones. Biden was not impeached. There was no prosecution. Secretary Mayorkas was impeached but still not prosecuted. I wish we could put an end to this idea of political prosecution. There is no good to come from it.
     
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    They have accused him of falsifying records. There has been no evidence in the trial of any falsified records. There has only been negative opinions of Trump. Not too hard to find those.
     
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    Please read the indictment. It explains the charges. Also, catch up on the case. You are misrepresenting that as well.
     
  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well and willfully. The truth is a click away. Instead, they avert their eyes.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Therefore you believe they won't be entered in to evidence?
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I said there has been no evidence. Still waiting.
     
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    I read a little of it. There has been no evidence presented that any reports have been falsified. I think I'm caught up.
     
  22. yardmeat

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    I will try to help you: paying someone back for a campaign contribution isn't a legal expense.
     
  23. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    No refunds allowed huh? I'm glad I don't get involved in political donations. It seems like a terrible way to use money. Unneeded money is better spent on charity donations.
     
  24. yardmeat

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    You never tire of the straw men, do you? Try actually addressing what I said.
     
  25. fmw

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    I did. You referred to paying someone back for political donations.
     

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