Trump has been labeled 'loser of the year' by one of Europe's biggest news magazines

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  1. Vailhundt

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    Yet you have not a shred.of evidence that Biden cheated. These claims embarrass our entire country.
     
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    Such is your hysteria.
     
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    Do you think we're in better shape vs Iran, China, NK, and the rest when our allies see us as losers?

    Do you think we're in stronger position even just with our allies if they see us as losers?

    So, what's up? Just how much better off are we when even our allies see us as losers?

    And, why?
     
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    Sour grapes. :)
     
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    It shows the left's ability to force courts to do as they say.

    That would alarm most people.
     
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    What has how they see us affected actually?

    I don't see any change.
     
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    Not yet. It's a long game to weaken NATO. And it has worked so far. But that ends January 20th, 2021.
     
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    Interesting sentence structure!

    You KNOW there is change. Don't feed me that kind of nonsense.

    It's China that has the largest pacific trade organization, as Trump killed that direction in favor of his tariff fiasco.

    It's Iran the benefitted from Trump cutting off our allies at the knees by freeing Iran of their commitments.

    We left WHO when Earth needed a pandemic response. Our right wing calls it the "China virus" - just plain flat out ignorance and racism. We assault the most basic elements of science based medicine. We leave our own citizens with no healthcare coverage as we rush to enact executive orders to free corporations from legal responsibility in how they treat eployees.

    Etc.

    The question is how much value ANY nation would give to having a deal with America when America PROMISES we will not keep our end of the bargain, when we make decisions like deciding science based medicine is pure crap, like our choice to attempt to end our democracy, like our support for white supremacy even when it's a crystal clear source of terrorism.



    Why would we be accepted as having international leadership when we behave in a way that even our ALLIES suggest is indicitive of being stupid?
     
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    Wow - more parotted claims that are just plain stupid, let alone without ANY evidence.

    I SWEAR you are better than that.
     
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    It's simply more conservative hysterics by a group of people who refuse to acknowledge that Biden won the election. I swear if Trump told them to follow the lemmings over the cliff, they'd most likely comply. They need to remove the blinders and view Trump for what he is; a manipulative, compulsive liar. My opinion of course.
     
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    I'm still alive because I haven't shown the evidence.

    That is how it works with them.
     
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    None of that has been altered because of us.

    China was always the largest trader there, it has nothing to do with how we are liked.

    Iran's little deal with the US would have expired by this point anyways, it was only for ten years and again, nothing would be any different if everyone loved us.

    The Earth got a pandemic response and very quickly. Are trying to tell us that if France liked us a little more that the pandemic wouldn't have been as bad?

    Seriously, as usual, you folks repeat this lie and can never show a single thing that would have actually changed.
     
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    Oh yea, you are still fearing that Russian invasion into Europe.

    lol

    Thank God we have NATO or we would all be speaking Russian now.

    Maybe the left should quit being a bunch of warmongering fools.
     
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    Do you actually think someone is going to track you down for posting something in support of what you believe???
     
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    Hell yes, if it threatens them you can be sure of it. Look at all the people around the Clinton's that mysteriously died, and I mean unexplained deaths or straight up disappearances.

    There were three people killed in plane crashes on three different planes I mean c'mon.
     
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    Northern Georgia is in Europe. Crimea is in Europe. Eastern Ukraine is in Europe. So your "lol" is real cute, my man. What do you find funnier? The Russian land grab triggered by these countries flirting with NATO, or the hilarious pile of 1000s of dead people that has resulted? Pure comedy gold, right?
     
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    Oh, good LORD! Do you really suck up every preposterous conspiracy theory you come across?

    What's so bad about asking for at least one tiny shred of evidence?
     
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    Backwards, much?

    The Clinton's posture in defending Eastern Europe is exactly why Russia was so interested in pushing our election toward Trump.

    And, Trump's relationship with Russia has certainly not had anything to do with promoting a strong NATO stance against Russia.
     
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    We had every opportunity to put together a strong pacific trade organizaton - strong enough to make a real difference. Trump killed that.

    We had an 8 nation agreement of nations. Even Iran signed on. The objective was prevention of Iranian military weapons capability.

    Trump trashed that - which not only freed Iran, but prevents further action by nations still interested.

    It also proved that deals with the US are worthless.

    Our leaving WHO slowed coordinated response - which absolutely WAS important. WHO had better information than did we at the outset, and ignoring that supported worse decision making in America.

    This idea that we're somehow better off when we refuse to work with or accept help or even information from any other nation in the world is just plain STUPID.
     
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    Why is the opinion of a magazine relevant at all?
     
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    Finally a judge with courage, and who is not afraid of threats.

    "... MI Judge Grants Attorney Matt DePerno Permission To RELEASE Results Of Forensic Examination On 16 Dominion Voting Machines In Antrim Co..."
    In the end, the problem might just be: How many people will go to jail, and will the jail fit them all?


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    The amount of people who were a threat to the Clintons and who died afterwards, should have warranted an investigation. The FBI originally said that the death of Seth Rich was due to a robbery and that it was a police matter, even though nothing was taken from him. Now it turns out that the FBI does have his computer and all it contains.

    So the question is, does the FBI have it to find out if he was killed for giving information to Wikileaks, or do they have it so they could cover up the actions of the DNC?
     
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    I think most of our allies are ****ing cowards who don’t appreciate the money and defense we bring to the table and then try to lecture us on how we should be while living under the umbrella we provide. I think if it came right down to against, China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, etc. their word is as hollow as an old women.
     
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    What is embarrassing is the fear the judges have in not taking the cases so that the hundred of witnesses with signed avidavits can give their testimonies. The excuse was that the 'thievery' was not enough to change the outcome of the election in the states. That though will change with the findings on Dominion. Hopefully the other states will follow suit with the one pending now in Michigan.

    When checking the machines, they found that when they inserted the same amount of ballots, Biden would come out with 13% more votes and Trump with 13% less. Obviously it was not enough to change the outcome, this why the Democrats were caught doing mischief such as truckloads of ballots coming at night for Biden etc.


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    Europe is far more directly faced with the security issues you worry about.

    It's YOU telling THEM how they should deal with YOUR fear.

    They are the ones on the Eastern front. They are the ones who live where those escaping our ME wars must escape to. They are the ones living closer to Iran.

    If THEY say they have a superior way of dealing with what really is THEIR security, who the hell are you to say that whatever it is, it must be ignored?

    On top of that, THIS president has allowed Russia to even dabble in our ELECTIONS. If you think they are a threat, then why would that be OK?

    Also, remember that it is our consortium of nations that signed the deal with Iran. Then, Trump FREED Iran from that deal!! Now, our allies, who still oppose Iranian nukes, no longer have a clear path to taking the kind of necessary action, because the USA is IN THE WAY.

    Why do you like that?
     
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