Trump: "Jesus Christ" Savior of America

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  1. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Thought it might be interesting for some people. ;)

     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speech is from 3:25 to 14:00 - 10:35 minutes.
     
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    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, yangforward, for clarifying that.
    I don't know why the author of the video butchered it like that.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Trump: "Jesus Christ" Savior of America"

    and the right claim they do not worship the Golden Cow
     
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    It is "interesting" I suppose to see Trump claiming we will be saved by an invisible supernatural being. For some reason I had a flashback to the movie Elmer Gantry.

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    I doubt Trump has been to church more than a few times since compulsory chapel at the military boarding school he attended.


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    Because it's not about the religion, it's about the power.
     
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    Remind me again: which if his three wives did he not cheat on?
     
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    He was a president, not a saint. ;)
    Also, Jesus said, it is enough for one to look at someone with desire, to commit adultery, so God knows how many adulterers and adulteresses are out there. :lol:
     
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    Trump took that to the extreme. It's difficult to find a more active adulterer than him, especially if we use the standard of "looking at someone with desire" . . . since he's done that with his own daughter. And he can't even say that he asks God for forgiveness. He's definitely not a saint, but he sure as **** isn't a Christian either.
     
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    I have always viewed the religious right with interest and a degree of sympathy. The religious right never wanted to create a theocracy in the United States. At most the religious right wanted to restore the moral ethos of the 1950's. I was a child during the 1950's. It was a nice time to be a child. Rates of crime, divorce, and illegitimacy were low. Most Americans were affiliated with a church or a synagogue.

    During the 1950's these values emerged spontaneously from the effects of the Great Depression, the Second World War, and the Cold War. They were not enforced by the government, and they could not be enforced by the government.In a country like the United States thee is little the government can do to influence religious and sexual behavior.

    This is where Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority went wrong during the 1980's, and where the religious right has erred ever since. By the 1980's the Moral Majority no longer represented the morals of the majority of Americans. Since the 1980's American society has continued to become more secular and hedonistic.

    The fact that what remains of the religious right has chosen a dishonest, foul mouthed, adulterous pagan like Trump to be its tribune illustrates how desperate it has become.

    Ironically, and I would add tragically, the support Christian conservatives have given Trump has alienated many young people from Christianity entirely.
     

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