Trump proposes repeal first, replace later plan.

Ok, we seem to be getting closer to some common sense. It should be pretty clear by now that the only politically palatable part of the "repeal and replace" mantra is the "repeal" part. So while this proposal still includes a call to "replace" at a later date, at least it is putting the priority on "repeal".

And that I think, is a good thing.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/f...-first-replace-later-strategy/article/2627548

On Friday morning, Trump urged GOP lawmakers to separate repeal and replace if they can't pass a bill doing both.


"If Republican Senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately REPEAL, and then REPLACE at a later date!" Trump tweeted.

 

It's a clever play to force those on the fence to comply with whatever is out on the table on Labor Day. Many people are already up in arms over the thought of replacing the ACA. No one wants to go without any kind of health insurance bill for any amount of time. There's going to be serious fury unleashed throughout the summer to get something passed if the ACA is repealed overnight.

 

Just repeal the mandate, the constraints of minimum coverage, and the stupid add on tax. Insurers will line up to offer new lines in states they long disappeared in.

 

What was the law before ACA?

 

I can't say for sure, but I think what would likely happen is that if it is "repealed" first, the repeal would not go into effect until Jan 1, 2018. And then whatever it is or is not replaced with would go into effect on Jan. 1, 2018 also. But of course, I'm just speculating here.

 

Finally, some common sense. I suspect that is what Trump wanted all along, but didn't want to drag the Republican establishment too hard. Either way, it's the only way to keep the Republican party from being blamed for "0bamacare Lite".

 

Yeah, that would make most sense, if it happens.

 

this will get Conservatives to dig in their heals, and Moderates to fight even harder.

not a good move, Trump.

 

So keep the subsidies and preexisting conditions? Nobody will buy insurance until they're sick.

 

Moderates are demanding more of the ACA be preserved, such as coverage for pre-existing conditions, coverage up to age 26 for kids, some of the mandated services, expansion of Medicaid and some of the taxes.

HOW is the idea of simply repealing Obamacare going to bring these guys to the table?

Trump is dumb.

 

I've been opposed to this strategy up till now because I figured it would be a disaster to repeal Obamacare without having a replacement bill, particularly since there are a few in Congress, like Rand Paul and Mike Lee, who don't want any sort of replacement. But at this point, the GOP has so bungled repeal and replace that this might be the only thing we get, and we may need the pressure of a collapsing independent insurance system to force a replacement plan at some point.

If we're at this point, the GOP has decided they don't want to be in power any more and would rather the Democrats run things.

 

...as a box of rocks

 

Yeah. Accidentally became an international, multi-billionaire entrepreneur, and whupped the crap out of you and yours, despite the illegals voting.

What does that make you?

 

There are conflicting views regarding if full repeal can be passed via reconciliation (51 votes). If it can't be passed with 51 then there is zero chance it happens.

 

Republican moderates and conservatives alike have already voted 6 times to repeal ObamaCare in its entirety; when Obama was president. In 2015, the House and Senate both voted to repeal ObamaCare, and sent the legislation to Obama for approval. Obama, of course, never acted on it.

Now with Trump as president, you'd think these Republicans would be lining up in the aisles, just waiting for the chance to vote on it when their vote actually matters. Yeah sure. I'm just glad Trump is trying to force their hands on the issue.

 

Why is it a good thing to propose 32 million losing health insurance?

 

And this is only part of the problem for Trump and Republicans. Even if you ignore that such a policy proposal would result in 32 million losing health insurance, there is absolutely zero way that they can even pass this type of legislation because it would not fit within the boundaries of reconciliation and thus would require 60 votes in order to stop a filibuster.

 

daddy gave him a big fat interest-free loan

he's filed for bankruptcy multiple times.

 

How do you propose passing a full Obamacare repeal while the filibuster exists?

 

It's not my problem, but I would like for the repeal to come up for a vote and let everyone have a vote on the matter to see where everyone stands. 0bamacare is going broke. I want those that still support it on record for the 2018 elections.

 

Totally false and relies on nonsense. The mandate is required for lower costs to exist. The free market has proven it cannot do health insurance.

Time for single payer.

 

I want all those that oppose single payer on record for the 2018 election.


That way they can be kicked out for not wanting coverage for all people.

 

Since I don't care if they 'replace' it anyhow, 'repeal and replace at a later date' is fine with me!

It still baffles me how people have a meltdown at the thought of living without Obamacare. (How do they think we survived before Obamacare?? Based on the hysterics you'd think we surely should have become extinct!) But that's the problem with entitlements and freebies, once you start handing them out, good luck ever reining them back in again.

 

I don't know of anyone proposing that. But you tell me, is it a good thing if 1.4 million people lose their insurance due to insurance companies quitting ObamaCare?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-in-obamacare-to-lose-plans-as-insurers-quit

At least 1.4 million people in 32 states will lose the Obamacare plan they have now, according to state officials contacted by Bloomberg. That’s largely caused by Aetna Inc., UnitedHealth Group Inc. and some state or regional insurers quitting the law’s markets for individual coverage.


Or back in 2014, was it a good thing for 4.7 million people to receive cancellation notices from their current insurance carrier because of ObamaCare?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/policy-notifications-current-status-state-204701399.html

 

Donald Trump just proposed that - your OP is specifically about a plan to completely repeal Obamacare without a replacement. The CBO estimated that such a plan would result in 32 million losing health insurance.