Trump rolls back environmental protections to accelerate infrastructure projects

What do you think Trump is doing? Saving the economy in the time of crisis or killing the only Planet we've got? 25 000 pages of regulations removed is a lot. I really doubt Trump has read even 1% of it. But have those who signed it?

Do those regulations matter at all?

And what will happen when Trump leaves the office (if not after his first term then after the second). Will it all just flood back by thousands of new pages or will the next President keep the economy deregulated?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolls-back-environmental-protections-213733634.html

 

I'm great with this, my city has been dealing with crazy regs for several important projects, adding cost, delaying start dates, just generally screwing everything up to save some bushes or a random bird.

One project downtown has been held up for a year for an environmental study, all they are doing is putting up a new building to replace the old ugly one.

 

What city is it? I got an impression from your post that Trump's presidency didn't change much, did it?

 

I prefer to not volunteer personal info, but correct, the epa has created major roadblocks based on environmental stuff. Coastal city in florida so were talking protected plants, animals, water, etc, which make sense on some levels, but makes no sense on others based on what is around the projects in question. We've had one project held up since 2010 but the sister project flew through in 07' with no issues.

 

The world is ending on Tuesday. Thanks Trump!

 

Do you ever notice a pattern to EVERYTHING Dirty Donald does, always the biggest or greatest of any president in history. The only thing he is the greatest at of any president in history is dispensing bullshit.

 

We need some common sense regs. But there are far too many today. I read some years ago in readers digest about sheep herders. Just recall thinking it was created by some madman.

Some of these regs involve water ditches on private property that seem too extreme and crazy. Even some on private ponds on farms.

Bout time to thin them out. Get rid of the EPA and give that job to congress.

 

Oh, he is the biggest, the best and the greatest in every thing he does! Marvelous and tremendous. The lessor among us are terribly jealous! Lol

 

Were they trying to extort money from the company or were they genuinely concern about environment?

 

The job of the Congress is to pass laws not to protect environment.

 

Trump doesn't care about saving the economy or the environment, sure this benefits his own businesses in some way

 

What makes you think like that? You mean that all 25 000 pages deleted were harming his personal profits somehow?

 

You extort money by enforcing environmental concerns and delay or halt them through a mountain of red tape. One fun one in florida is the burrowing owl, one bird can hold up a project for years and you need special approval for the privilege of spending 20k to move a nest 60 feet. Migratory bird treat act.

General examples:
sackett v epa.
Robertson v. US

WOTUS, (now repealed, iirc but pre-WOTUS is muddy as well) CWA. Can wreak havoc on development projects both private and public. All you need is a pond somewhere out in the middle and you've got wetlands, which mean headaches.

My only point is that in general terms I would rather have the EPA taking more common sense approach to some of these issues, and if removing red tape helps, then im behind it.

 

nope, some of those items benefited him personally, those that manipulated him, did that to get him to approve it

Trump is easily manipulated

 

But does it? You yourself just said that removing regulations just rollbacks things to the previous regulations which are no better. So when Trump says he removed 25 000 pages what he actually means is that he moved things back to the 25 000 pages of regulations that were before that.

 

Who is manipulating him? Aliens?

 

No, that was specific to WOTUS / pre Wotus.

I believe we are talking 25,000 different pages altigether but I don't believe there is any specific details as of yet as to what is/will be removed now vs what was removed before.

90% of that will be filled with so much legalese that most of us wont understand it anyway.

 

~ Trump is a realist. Some people are not used to this - mostly the ones on Capitol Hill.

 

people that want something, they praise him, tell him how strong or smart he is, then ask him to do something, Trump's fragile ego is his weakness

 

Are you aware of instances when a regulation was just removed and not replaced by something else?

What will be filled with legalese? The explanation of what regulations were removed why and what will replace it?

 

FreshAir doesn't think that he is a realist. He says that Trump is simply pursuing his own interest and the interests of his inner circle. Do you agree with him?

 

Trump is part of the me me me crowd

 

So they pass laws. that protect the environment. Not illegal. They pass all kinds of laws as it is now. They reform the financial sector with legislation as in 09. This isn't any different. Putting power into the hands of burocracies non elected people gives us thousands if regs with many being crazy. And can't vote out these lifer burocrats.

 

An overhaul of the regulations is needed, but a blind repeal of thousands of them, which are going to remove some very needed ones in the process.

See, it's all about extremes, and either extreme is bad.

 

The job of congress is to write laws that are just, and promote the general welfare of American citizens and that of the greater good, and, as such, in that very large umbrella, includes passing laws to protect the environment. A 'penumbra' responsibility, if you want to look at it that way.