Trump thinking of declaring the wall a national emergency

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  1. Scamander

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    This has long ceased to be an issue about a wall or border-protection. In fact, it never was. Trump always intended to use 'the wall' as an excuse to shut down the government if indicted by Mueller.

    I always said Trump would blow up the USA, just to save his own diseased skin. And that's exactly what he's doing.

    But in the end he'll only destroy himself. If there has to be a winner in this standoff between 328 million Americans and Trump then America wins. Guaranteed.

    This is not the end or even the beginning of the end for the United States.
    But it is most certainly the end of a beginning.
    A beginning without Trump as President.

    I would love the smell of a no-Trump-presidency in the morning...

    Someday his mad reign is gonna end.
     
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    We’re doing just fine. By us, I mean us, Conservatives. No need to feel sorry for us, my friend :)
     
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    Here are Trump's latest (re) tweets this morning;

    Guess three times what's on his mind...

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    How much more clear does Trump have to be that he is anything but troubled over a wall? His entire shutdown of government is ONLY because he's scared stiff Mueller will come for him.
    So, he shuts down government, calls a national crisis and WARNS for the disruption he intends to cause.

    Trump knows that suspension of the rule of law is the only thing that's gonna delay his inevitable demise.

    Congress and Senate should finally smell the coffee that the rest of America already know Trump is brewing.
    Kick Mueller into gear to indict Trump and begin his impeachment!

    If not Trump might impeach democracy...
     
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    I are deluding yourself

    People who voted for trump want border security and an end to the illegal alien invasion

    The wall is anecesary part of that but idea that it has to be concrete to satisfy me, or ann coultet or rush limbaugh is just crazy

    Assuming you really believe that, which is doubtful

    As for your alleged quote of ann coulter I notice you didnt include a link
     
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    I love when leftists try to explain in concrete reasons why you should bow down to them.

    So funny.
     
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    Says the guy who doesn't want national security.
     
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    If think its a lie I dont mind

    That gores with with typical Trump Derangement Syndrome

    But I dont know of any trump voter who expected mexico to write a check for the wall

    We are quite willing to pay because the wall is necessary
     
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    Happy Mnuchins!!!
     
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    long skinny steel slats in the sand.. for border patrol agents to admire as they torch cut one and yank it down and make a door in seconds

    maybe I can get the painting contract??.. I promise I won't use any unapproved colors

    I can screw some chicken wire in over the holes
     
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    Illegal immigration is at an all time high.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9270f9cce17_story.html?utm_term=.32512a0837fd

    This wall is not a military defensive structure. The Maginot Line wasn't even a wall. We're not defending against the 12th Donkey Regiment.

    Everywhere walls have been built they have dramatically reduced illegal immigration and terror attacks, be it San Diego or Israel. 90%+ in fact.

    Europe has built over 1000 km of walls and barriers to stop migrants.

    The Hungarian wall has all but put an end to illegal immigration into their country.

    Anyone arguing that walls, done correctly, aren't extremely effective at stopping migrants are just pointing out the ridiculousness of their point of view.

    What stopped the migrant caravans?

    Walls.
     
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    Thats very thick metal and not so easy to cut
     
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    He's giving the border agents what they want, and that is something they can see through.
     
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    Now they're dragging 30 foot ladders and welding equipment through the desert.
     
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    The alternative to the wall is militarization of the border

    no one wants that but it may be necessary till the wall is built
     
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    Libs will make any stupid argument to stop the wall

    I want to see a dope mule with a 100 pound pack or a pregnant woman get over a 30 foot wall

    If they do there will be plenty of time for the border patrol to get there and arrest them

    But we aLso need major changes in our laws along with physical border security
     
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    So we should ignore it and hope that it fixes itself? That's irresponsible and foolish.
     
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    yeah.. real men don't know how much thick steel costs and that cost is directly proportional to thickness

    at least 25% more thanks to the tarriffs.. and it should be going into bridges not walls.. Maybe Z Jin Ping Pong is getting desperate.. Huawei for ZTE!!

    I hear the passing of an infrastructure bill coming

    Can we make bridges out of hemp?? They would bio degrade
     
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    Your tap dancing isn't working.

    Maybe you could tell us more about the periodic table or something.
     
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    Leftists would rather see the country destroyed than see President Trump successful. With a clever turn of a phrase ( I will build a wall, and Mexico will pay for it) he has skewered them like a human kabob, from which they cannot escape. Leftists are mired in failure and irresponsibility. Here's a clue: one must first pay the cost before there can be recompense.
     
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    He can't deliver the wall, so he's falling apart because he thinks he'll lose his base, and he will lose many of them. (not you of course)

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    Cartels smuggle drugs into the U.S. all the time using elaborate underground tunnels. One was discovered in 2013 that went from Tijuana, under the border, to San Diego. The tunnel was more than 600 yards long, it had lights and ventilation and rails to push carts filled with drugs through the tunnel. Three people were taken into custody, and federal agents seized eight tons of marijuana and 325 pounds of cocaine. That was just the drug score federal agents seized in that one day! There have been hundreds of tunnels found that transported tons and tons of drugs that were dug by drug cartels and a lot of those drugs are coming right through the LEGAL border crossing. No wall -- no matter how high -- how deep -- how thick or how long is going to put an end to illegal drugs coming into the U.S. People will go under, over, around or through any wall no matter what it's made of.

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    And righties would rather see this entire country fail. More than 200 years of fighting to sustain and uphold a democratic republic just tossed into the crapper because your pride and prejudice keeps you cemented to an insecure, inept, racketeer who has fooled you into believing he gives a damn about you or anyone else only because you're haters too and you love Trump's hate, that's right up your alley.
     
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    Dems pre-Trump:

    -Hillary: Supported border wall
    -Obama: More border security, illegals must speak English, go to back of line
    -Schumer: Border walls work
    -Reid: Offering benefits to illegals = insane
    -Feinstein: US can't be Mexico's welfare
    -Clinton: Illegal immigration is wrong
     
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    And how will building a wall make the entire country fail?
     
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    Translation: Stopping drug cartels is hard so let's just suck on our thumbs and hope they go away.
     
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    Good example of just how difficult and expensive a wall makes it for drug smugglers to get drugs in to our country with a wall in place.
     

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