Trump Vows to Undo Biden Gun Restrictions If Re-elected

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    “Former President Donald Trump, the Republican frontrunner in the 2024 presidential race, said on Friday that if re-elected he would reverse all the gun restrictions enacted by President Joe Biden.

    Speaking to thousands of supporters at an event organized by the National Rifle Association (NRA), Trump vowed to rescind a rule restricting sales of gun accessories known as pistol braces and other restrictions put in place by the Biden administration.

    "Every single Biden attack on gun owners and manufacturers will be terminated my very first week back in office, perhaps my first day," Trump said in a speech to thousands of supporters at the Great American Outdoor show in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

    The NRA enthusiastically backed Trump”…

    2024 Thomson/Reuters.







    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/guns-trump/2024/02/09/id/1153052/








    This Reuters news article is interesting. The NRA event drew a large crowd. Trump was smart to appear there. I’m glad that he’s going to repeal every gun control measure enacted by the fascist Biden regime.
     
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    The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. It’s time we have a President who respects the constitution and the founding fathers.
     
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    Respects the Constitution…???

    You make me laugh…!
     
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    Trump's vows are the equivalent of projectile vomit.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess we'll see. But since these were enacted via the executive rather than the legislative, it's likely that Trump will be able to undo them rather easily.
     
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    He "respects" the constitution according to Trumpian, when he promises virtually no restrictions on weapons. Trump knows which buttons to push . And the gun one is a BIG one in this country. Has little to do with the constitution, but more to do with the population's love of weapons. They now feel ENTTILED to own weapons.
     
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    'The right of the people to keep and bear arms' isn't a 'feeling', it is literally a legal entitlement to own weapons...

    en·ti·tle·ment
    [inˈtīdlmənt, enˈtīdlmənt]
    NOUN
    1. the fact of having a right to something:
     
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    THAT is not disputed. The issue is that It is still a CHOICE to own one . Being entitled does not indicated one HAS to have a weapon. If folks need that many weapons to "protect" themselves etc........what does it say about the country itself??
     
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    So your complaint is that too many people are choosing to exercise their rights (or 'entitlement'). Well OK... it would seem a lot of people think this country is potentially dangerous and they feel either a desire or an obligation to protect themselves. On what basis would you argue that they're wrong?
     
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    Yes.. the country is not only potentially dangerous. It has become quite dangerous to live in. THAT is the core problem that no one is addressing. ie: remove / reduce the "need" for weapons because the country IS a dangerous place. The number of weapons floating around does not make it safer ether. The potential for gun violence is obvious. So it becomes a self perpetuating cycle of violence. The fact remains folks do LIKE owning weapons. It makes them feel more powerful.
     
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    You mean these gun laws? They were passed by Congress and signed into law by Biden.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/06/25/1107626030/biden-signs-gun-safety-law

    "The legislation, which passed the House 234-193 Friday night following Senate approval Thursday, includes incentives for states to pass so-called red flag laws that allow groups to petition courts to remove weapons from people deemed a threat to themselves or others.

    In addition, the bill expands an existing law that prevents people convicted of domestic abuse from owning a gun to include dating partners rather than just spouses and former spouses.

    It also expands background checks on people between the ages of 18 and 21 seeking to buy a gun.
    "

    Trump should really run on this. Taking back legislation that makes it harder for criminals and mentally ill to obtain a gun. Is THAT what the gun freaks want? They and the NRA are not going to be happy until ALL gun legislation is cancelled. They are holding the country hostage because of their demented hobby and irrational love of guns.
     
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    There's nothing remotely "entitled" about a constitutionally protected right.

    I think you need a reminder that rights are not granted by the government and they are not permissions that we must seek from the government that they can take away from us at their whim and fancy
     
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    It sounds like you own a weapon and are simply projecting how it makes you feel, onto others.
     
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    Trump's policy

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    Your last sentence make your post impossible to take seriously.
    When such hyperbolically dishonest allegations are slanderously levied, no logical adult conversation is possible
     
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    Breaking news!

    Trump panders to gun nuts.
     
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    The violent crime rate is literally half what it was 30 years ago. We are living in a MUCH safer society. Over the same period, the number of known firearms in private ownership has doubled. While I'm not suggesting, or discounting, a causation relationship, I'm interested to know how you think that could be possible, given what you just said here.
     
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    I don't agree. We are living in a society where substantial shift in the way laws are enforced shifts perceptions; where modified values are causing what should be crimes to be ignored. We are also in a time where drastic changes brought about by the internet alter the perceptions, and where data from nearly all sources lacks the reliability it once had. Then- we have the double standards, where the laws become rubber bands, and people don't trust in them. Prosecutors that refuse to prosecute, violent people released without bail, totally unprovoked attacks on people in public with no motive other than to harm somebody. Aside from the data- most people are seeing their world as a lot more dangerous, and are concerned for their safety.

    There are two kinds of laws in a society. The written ones, and the social ones. The social ones are learned by the examples and precedents we live with. Starts when babies see their parents treat each other with love and respect, or hostility and violence. When an adult sees bad social behavior and is not equipped with the values of self-respect that a sound childhood would foster, they learn that bad behavior works.
    As the system fails to do it's job, they learn that the legal laws are also rubber bands or empty threats.

    The ideal regulation of a nation's conduct is "self-regulation", meaning people do the right thing because it is the right thing, and they take responsibility for what they do. If all people did that, most of the people in law enforcement, courts, etc- would not be needed at all. This all starts with the examples the precedents set by those we learn from. Parents, and eventually society- and especially, leadership.

    When the people who make the rules do not play by the rules- there are no rules, only cosmetics. That is what people see, and when it's allowed- we ARE in danger. All of us. And from many risks.
    Laws cannot regulate people who don't respect laws and refuse to regulate themselves. If law does not take those people out of society- they are making that kind of conduct acceptable, lowering the bar, and that is clearly saying that your safety is up to you personally, your government is so deluded it no longer understands it's duty or mission.

    A disorderly government breeds a disorderly society. Our government conduct is not too far from a schoolroom of troubled kids when the teacher is out. Even members of Congress are openly admitting it's in a state of chaos. Regardless of numbers, we do not live in a safer society at all, but in a far more perilous one. And the wackier people get, especially with that is tolerated and allowed to break down social standards, the more dangerous it will appear to be. Many people right now are thinking the nation is falling apart and close to civil war- because incivility appears to have become socially acceptable.

    Laws have to have meaning. In 1977, the average length of time on death row before execution was 3 months. 40 years later- it was 238. In many states now, the threshold between petty larceny and grand larceny has been raised to about $1,000, and gets you a citation, like a traffic ticket, instead of arrest. Again, the shift in social perception shifts conduct. In this case we not only fail to prosecute, we often fail to try, and we fail to condemn. After the ransacking of many stores in the Miracle Mile of upscale stores in Chicago, a woman was on national TV explaining that it wasn't theft, it was taking reparations- and it didn't matter, because those stores had insurance.

    IF society doesn't protect it's people, the people will protect themselves. Their perception of their safety will determine what they do, not a chart of statistics. Unfortunately, politicians know that the image will have more impact on their own position than the facts, and they lack the moral courage to show us the truth.
     
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    2024 Thomson/Reuters.

    I’m sure that Thomson Reuters will be very offended that some consider them to be in the op-Ed business rather than being a hard news current events news source. Of course some set themselves in high and thank that they know better what news is that Reuters does.
     
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    Secular progressives and laughing at the constitution go hand in hand.
    Populist conservatives love the constitution and respect its original intent including the individual rights under the 2A.
     
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    Good I plan on buying a lawn chair a blanket and a sawed-off shotgun so I can sit on my porch and dare people to come on my lawn
     
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    The hard news here is what he’s reported by Reuters as saying he’s going to do to current Biden regime rules and regulations regarding guns.
     
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    I agree. That’s why we in far northern rural California openly defy our states gun control rules regarding gun types and where we can carry. Shasta county is proud to be a 2A sanctuary county and per capita the most heavily armed in the state.
     
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    Did trump mention he banned bump stocks and wanted more thorough background checks?
     
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    Says the guy who supports the clown who would “suspend” the Constitution…!
     

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