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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Why would any American want a system where in you can't tell legiitimate votes from fake.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oodles of time to do that, they send out a sample ballot way early. This isn't that complicated, no reason to wait till the 11th hour.
     
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    No one does and no one has demonstrated that that has happened. Even the commission that President Trump appointed could find no significant examples of voter fraud.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy... Fraud Your definition of, "legal votes," is not reflective of a secure voting system.


    I am willing to call anyone out who tries to claim that an un-secure voting system is acceptable. It Isn't...

    In the past, many Democrats were guided by morals. That passed into being guided only by laws and secular ethics. That also has been dis-guarded.

    Now the Democrat Party is only interested in an outcome regardless of fairness or honor.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Over 1,000 documented incidents and over 50 convictions for voter fraud since 2014 alone.

    Huey Long would be proud of these numbers...

    "In 378 U.S. counties, voter registration rates exceed 100% of the adult population, meaning there are more voter registrations on file than the total voting-age population, according to a new analysis by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch." 2/2020
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The winning margin is each of the states would have to EXCEED the number of UNCOUNTED mail in ballots for that to occur.

    Given that there are going to be an UNPRECEDENTED number of mail-in ballots that is just NOT going to happen on election night.

    Your HYPOTHETICAL has no bearing on what is going to happen.

    No state can call the election for anyone UNTIL there is a CLEAR majority of votes that EXCEEDS any remaining uncounted ballots.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Since 2014 there have been well over 200 million votes cast which makes those instances of voter fraud irrelevant since they did NOT alter the outcome of any election.
     
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    LOL! You actually think folks are going to vote by mail? Too much work for todays lefty. I mean, licking the stamp and dropping it in the mailbox?
     
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    Voter fraud altered the out come of New Hampshire in 2016. Trump won the state with legal votes. Same with the Senate race.

    The exact numbers in New Hampshire...

    The numbers read this way:

    6,540 people voted using out-of-state licenses

    As of Aug. 30, 1014, about 15 percent had been issued N.H. driver’s licenses.

    Over 5,000 individuals lied on their voter participation registrations.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This may actually backfire in a few states with Evangelicals.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Popular vote is irrelevant.

    I will laugh my azz off if California becomes a quagmire and Pelosi is not certified to return to the House in January.
     
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    Duly noted that you FAILED to provide a CREDIBLE source for your allegation.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fine with me... Trump is way ahead of the 270 figure so it may affect who runs the House in January.

    You do realize that the Supreme Court recently nixed the popular vote adherence across the entire country.
     
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    The fact that there have been 50 convictions show that the process does work not that it doesn't.
    The reason for this is that voting lists have become inaccurate and do not reflect deaths or people who have moved to a different address. Voting fraud does not exist in lists it exists in illegal votes.
     
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    Please refer your comments to the democratic election officials in GA.... Just sayin.
     
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    Republican election officials were caught cheating several times in the past. Just say'n that roses do not grow from the butts of either party.
     
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    That would be because no state would cooperate in the investigation.
     
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    The Washington Times...
    ⦁ 6,540 people registered and voted on Nov. 8, based on presenting out-of-state licenses.

    ⦁ As of Aug. 30, about 15 percent (1,014 of the voters) had been issued New Hampshire driver’s licenses.

    ⦁ Οf the remaining 5,526, barely more than 200 (3.3 percent) had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

    New Hampshire law gives drivers 60 days upon establishing residence to obtain a state license.

    But more than 80 percent of voters who registered on Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses, or 5,313 of them, neither had a state license nor registered a motor vehicle almost 10 months later.

    Double voting is illegal, and 196 people are being investigated for casting ballots in New Hampshire and in other states.

    In the presidential race, Democrat Hillary Clinton defeated Republican Donald Trump in New Hampshire by 2,736 votes. In an even tighter race, for the Granite State’s U.S. Senate seat, Democratic challenger Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.

    Logan Churchwell, spokesman for Public Interest Legal Foundation, which investigates voter fraud, said Mr. Jasper’s numbers bolster his group’s findings that many people vote in New Hampshire without proof of residence.

    “We’ve known for months that more voters cast ballots without any proof of actually living in New Hampshire than the differentials for either federal contest there in 2016,” he said. “Now it looks like they were back in Boston in time to watch the election returns that evening. The left-wing groups suing to block new proof-of-residence laws for same-day voter registration are really proving what drives them to the courthouse.”
     
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    While every legal vote does need to be counted, we also need to define legal vote as one that arrives by election day. If you think about Florida in 2000, and a margin of victory of a few hundred votes that literally decides the entire election, if they were to allow votes that come in at later dates, it would be an absolute disaster. You can guarantee that there would be a flood of thousands of falsified votes that would come in from both sides and that election would therefore be as illegitimate as it comes, and it would cause a constitutional crisis the likes of which has never been seen. I say that regardless of who came out the winner after the post election arrivals.

    If either side were on top originally and then lost due to after election day arrivals, it would literally never be accepted, and for good reason. In that instance, the better cheaters would come out as the winner. For that reason, they really do need to have a strict requirement that it needs to have arrived by election day. It is not that difficult to mail your ballot a week early in order to account for the occasional mail delay. If one is that overly concerned about it arriving on time, then mail it 2 weeks early.
     
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    Stacie Abrams contended that the Sec. of State shut down voting sites.... In reality, there was no attempt at voter suppression by Republicans within Georgia.

    It was a big fat LIE.

    Voting sites in just two counties were removed where county commissioners all held a Democrat majority of the county commission seats.

    A ploy to get contributions pouring in and to gain the attention of the national fake news cabal.
     
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    How is that embarrassing? I'd call that a good thing, keeping highly populated states from running amok with this country. It is the system doing what it was designed to do.
     
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    I think the ballot harvesters hold some mail ballots back to see how many they need, so those will arrive after the election date.
     
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    Honestly, the embarrassment is constantly banging the popular vote drums when the mean nothing.

    It would be just as silly as someone still banging the drum that 3 of the last 6 superbowls should have been decided on who had the most first downs instead of the most points accumulated. It baffles me
     
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    If on election night, it is clear that Trump will reach 270 electoral votes, and Biden concedes. Period! Doesn't matter what happens after that.

    It's how it has always worked.

    However, if it's Biden who reaches 270 votes or more, Trump will be screaming "voter fraud" at the top of his voice.

    Is there any doubt about that being the case? I mean... Trump screamed "voter fraud" even when he won. Clearly he'll do the same when he loses.
     
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