Trumps an Idiot; Democrats too far left; where do you go?

Its not paranoia, its propaganda. The far right media is cranking up to keep the base wee wee'd up with more and more far right bullshit.

 

They will figure that out as soon as they figure out tax cuts don't work. Its been 40 years and counting, I'm not holding my breath.

 

Ad hominom attacks and bragging about ones abilities and intelligence is the sure sign of waving the white flag and having nothing to stand on.
Congratulations.

 

I think both parties do Court independents, which is why the dems were smart and abandoned Bernie and rallied around Biden. They knew independents likely wouldn’t support Bernie. The issue is that independents aren’t always as involved or passionate in the process, especially during the primaries. The candidates and parties during the primaries have to place extra focus on the base voters, who are likely to vote in the primaries, while keeping an eye on the general election. It’s all part of the kabooki theatre of picking our President.

 

What Ad Hom attack ? do feel free to point out where I engaged in such fallacy - and I will gladly beg for forgiveness if I am guilty.. but - methinks it is you who will be on bended knee .. lacking any foundation.

and to be sure .. would not your statement "bragging about one's abilities and intelligence" .. in of itself be an Ad Hom Attack ?

Priceless - accusing others of what you yourself are doing .. just classic .. thank you for that fine example of Fallacy and Hypocrisy mixed into one sweet bundle.

Help can be found here .. " Projection is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person. "

Now go and be well

 

Thanks for proving me correct, I knew you would.

 

That’s right. Bernie is not going to galvanize enough independents. Too bad. If Bernie were in anyother democracy in the free world, he’d be a moderate. As far left as the right wants to pretend Bernie is, everything that he supports is shared by the majority and is the most economically responsible. Universal healthcare is cheaper, doming something about climate change NOW is cheaper and comprehensive Img. reform is cheaper. The right just blows every cent it can of the middle class wealth.

 

Correct about what - fallacious gibberish is all you have provided so far .. no argument - nothing of substance - tell us where you got something right .. speak up man .. instead of hiding in the peanut gallery shooting spitballs ..

 

LOL and you just keep doing it!
Thanks again for proving me correct.

 

kabooki theatre, I like that. I do think the Democrats learned a lesson from 2016 when they decided to with Biden this year. Hillary was even more disliked than Trump was by independents. Biden actually seem to be courting independents this time around as he did peeve certain segments of his base off. But in the general election it paid off. Whereas Hillary lost the independent vote 42 to 46 to Trump, Biden won them 54-41.

I also wondered by the democrats choose Hillary in 2016. There were a poll out in Feb 2016 that showed 56% of all Americans wanted the Democrats to nominate someone other than Clinton. So the Democrats in my opinion had advance warning about her. But decided to ignore America as a whole. I firmly believe almost any other democrat, alive or dead, could have beaten Trump in 2016. But that's just my opinion.

Then again, when the Republicans nominated Trump, I thought the Republicans just gave the election to the Democrats in 2016. Then low and behold, along comes the Democrats and nominates Hillary Clinton. At that point, I didn't give a dang who won or lost, I despised both.I was one of the 9 plus million voters to voted third party against both major party candidates. It was important to me to get my vote officially registered as against both.

Being both parties have really shrunk, perhaps its time to relook at how our presidential candidates are chosen for the general election. One idea I had was to have regional jungle primaries which all registered voters could vote in. Not just Republicans in their primaries nor just democrats in theirs.

You could have all candidates compete in a northeaster jungle primary, a midwestern, perhaps a mid atlantic, a southern, a plains/mountain states and a west coast jungle primaries. At the end, the top two via for the presidency in November's general election. Just an idea of mine.

 

ha ha.

By courting, you mean lying to them during them campaign ?

There are a thousand lies you can tell on any topic and tailer them to fit your audience. There is only one truth. So the first time through, it’s easier for a liar to win elections. At some point, you have to come through on your promises.

And, how are you going to court one group when they want something another group despises. The only way out, is to try and do the correct thing for everyone. That requires science, not courting.

 

You don’t seem to know much about science especially when you claim the left is anti-science. You’re just throwing woo woo out there like the words mean something.

 

Hillary faced an unknown liar. Biden faced a known liar.

 

Another trite phrase that means nothing that was pulled off the internet. 11 of the last 12 recessions, means something. 100 plus felony convictions of gop admin personnel to just one Dem, means something. .

 

You have yet to do anything but name call .. and have a host of cheerleaders - typical state of the extreme left these days .

I know your kind !

 

I am a scientist - and a subject matter expert in certain area's related to the environment .. it is you who has no idea what you are talking about with respect to science.

It is a fact that the left is sometimes "Anti Science" - and the example of Michael Moore was given - would you like others ?

You can't handle this fact .. so you rather than address this information - you try to demonize the messenger .. a typical avoidance tactic.

This one is very common to the religious fundamentalists talked about earlier.

Then you finish with more Projection "You’re just throwing woo woo out there like the words mean something" - and I already gave you a link where you might find help with this issue.

 

The last Gallup poll I saw on the subject of Trust, politicians were right at the bottom, beneath even used car salesmen. You point is taken.

 

I have not contested anything above - so why you keep repeating it like a parrot on a broken record - as if Trumps failings account for the failings of Blue .. I do not know.

Trump has nothing to do with the fact that Blue is now

A) Neocon
B) Anti ACLU - Free speech, information, press.
C) Anti Environment.

All you have done so far to address this issue is twirl around on the floor - eyes rolled back of head - foaming at mouth chanting "Bad Trump - Bad Trump" and name calling / demonization of the messenger .. in a desperate attempt to avoid the message - which you can not handle.

 

A friend of mine put 2016 in this perspective, Trump being a businessman, TV personality, no political record, no one knew how he would govern. He was the devil we didn't know. Hillary was the devil we knew, she had a huge track record and everyone knew exactly how she would govern.

So we elected the devil we didn't know over the devil we knew. Perhaps we knew too well.

I think he summed up 2016 perfectly. As for Biden, I have a lot more hope in him that I ever did in either Trump or Hillary Clinton. Will Biden prove that hope was warranted? Only time will tell. Right now, I'm completely satisfied the next president won't be Trump nor Hillary Clinton.

 

Of course Biden is a Puppet - as was Obama - as was Trump. Presidents are "Selected" not "Elected" in this nation.

 

And how was that ? Did she deny science ? Nope. Did she have a history of being difficult to work with in govt ? Nope.
Exactly what ?

 

Wow.

 

You’re a scientist ? I’m an astronaut on week ends, a. Nuclear physicist during the week and special ops when on vacation. Scientist ? Sure.
Oh, now is sometimes anti science.
Exactly when is that ? You’ve yet to give an example where you know anything more then say, a Dem program about science.
Oh, Michael Moore is a spokesman for the left. Exactly where was Michael Moore anti science ?

 

You need to look at how the whole looked at her. Not just her supporters. she really wan't liked by America as a whole. Of course, neither was Trump as they set the record for the lowest favorable and highest unfavorable ratings ever among major party candidates. Hillary's 38% and Trump's 36% favorable was lower than Barry Goldwater's 43% back in 1964. They also became the first two presidential candidate to have unfavorable's above 50%, Hillary at 56%, Trump at 60% which broke Goldwater's record of 47%. The list:

Highest to lowest favorable/unfavorable ratings of each major party presidential candidate.

Favorable/unfavorable

1956 Eisenhower 84/12%

1964 LBJ 81/13%

1976 Carter 81/16%

1960 JFK 80/14%

1960 Nixon 79/16%

1968 Nixon 79/22%

1976 Ford 79/20%

1972 Nixon 76/21%

1968 Humphrey 72/28%

1984 Reagan 70/30%

1980 Carter 68/32%

1984 Mondale 66/34%

1980 Reagan 64/31%

1992 Bill Clinton 64/33%

2008 Obama 62/35%

2012 Obama 62/37%

1956 Stevenson 61/31%

2004 G.W. Bush 61/39%

2008 McCain 60/35%

1992 G.H.W. Bush 59/40%

2000 G.W. Bush 58/38%

2004 Kerry 57/40%

1996 Bill Clinton 56/42%

1988 G.H.W. Bush 56/39%

2000 Gore 55/43%

2012 Romney 55/43%

1972 McGovern 55/41%

1996 Dole 54/45%

1988 Dukakis 53/42%

2020 Biden 52/46%

1964 Goldwater 43/47%

2020 Trump 43/56%

2016 Hillary Clinton 38/56%

2016 Donald Trump 36/60%

This is how America as a whole, not just their supporters viewed them. It just so happened the two most disliked and unwanted presidential candidates in our history faced each other in 2016. Neither Republicans will admit how disliked Trump was and neither will the Democrats admit how disliked Hillary was by America as a whole. Their supporters see each in a very favorable view and the other in disgust. In the end, it was the non-affiliated, less to non-partisan swing voters, independents that went for Trump over Clinton. I think an avid supporter of any candidate could never see or understand how someone else could see them in a very negative light.

 

Sorry, not into CTs