UAW goes on Strike --- First Time in History Workers Will Picket All Big Automakers At Same Time

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  1. Oldyoungin

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    Another historical first for the Great Joe Biden!
     
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    we will see, I bet your wrong and the automakers renew the contract and pay more
     
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    exactly....
     
  4. Chickpea

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    Then what's with the "strike"?
     
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    That wouldn't make me wrong...
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    They should in light of the extortion they are attempting.



    Why can't the workers work for $50k?
     
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    They already offered more.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    On I'm sure they could put a body in position for that much I bet they could find someone who would take it for $1 million. Heck I bet you' d take it for half that so why do they hire you. Maybe they could just move an assembly person off ths floor andngive them a 20% raise........why not ?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    You think it is either they "values" them or they don't "value" them?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Yes the workers can come to a reasonable agreement and keep their jobs. In the mean time the unions need to be placed under anti-trust law.
     
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    You said

    It's not the trade agreement it's his Bidenflation and energy policies that makes the pay worth less and less. Our Southern auto and metals has been expanding quite nicely thank you very much.

    "As Breitbart News’s Economics Editor John Carney put it, “the looming strike by the United Auto Workers is as much a protest against Bidenomics as it is the policies of General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and Stellantis.”

    As Carney detailed:

    While all Americans have been hard hit by the surge of inflation tied to Biden’s deficit spending, Detroit’s autoworkers have had it far worse than most of their fellow Americans. The place we once called the Arsenal of Democracy was ground zero for Bidenflation’s destructive explosion.

    The promise of low inflation was broken by the bloated fiscal policies of the Biden administration and the loose money policies of the Federal Reserve.

    It only made matters worse that the Democrats time and again sought to downplay inflation or pass the buck onto the greed of corporations or Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. As recently as this month, Democrat leftist stalwart Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York was circulating the idea that inflation was just “propaganda.” Even when Democrats admit inflation has been problematic and linked to excessive fiscal and monetary expansion, they act as if it were a sacrifice necessary because of the pandemic. Never have they mentioned that the sacrifice was borne more heavily by some than others, much less acknowledged the prices paid by our autoworkers."
    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2...s-at-the-same-time-for-first-time-in-history/
     
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    How many if those union workers have MBA's in business and a successful track and oversee BILLIONS in owner equity?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    It was a direct comparison to your assertions for which you have no response. Oh well.

    Here is what you said

    We'll take it ome step at a time to make it easire for you

    So how does that increase the value of their labor and productivity to cover the cost of doing that?
     
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    Probably none and I never suggested they did. What's your point?
     
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    It doesn't increase the value of their labor but their point is that the profits they generate by their labor and productivity are not being shared fairly.
     
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    Don't doubt it and depends in the bank and situation. Companies will often pay good money to hire a CEO who specializes in management during downturns so losses are minized and the company saved.

    Of course they can. How much do the workers loses helping to cover the losses?

    Do they lose any of their money they had been paid? Do they have sell off their property to help cover any losses?
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    You said

    So you are comparing them so I naturally asked.

    How many if those union workers have MBA's in business and a successful track and oversee BILLIONS in owner equity?

    You are correct probably none. Thus the pay gap. If that is above your comprehension I would never have you sitting on the board of my company and would appreciate a list of those on which you do to make sure I'm not invested in any of them.
     
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    Ok, and how will they do that. Make up your own scenario.
    Not the executives in the UAW case.
    Sure, in smaller corporations, family owned businesses they could go broke.
    I don't understand this sentence. How much do the workers lose? Some will most likely lose their jobs with lay offs. Those always start at the bottom.
    They lose their jobs. Some, like in the 30's and 08 lost their homes too. That's worse than selling off property to cover a loss.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    They as an emoloyee have no right to a share of the profits. They get paid BEFORE profits. If they want a share of the profits then they can purchase the stock or agree that when those profits shrink or they even hage losses then their pay gets cut accordingly.
     
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    Hold on
    I said "probably none" meaning I agree with you point. The fact that there's a pay gap is also understood even before your explanation here so the comprehension problem seems to be on your end.
    What you failed to address or comprehend is in capital letters like this "HOW MUCH" more is the pay gap. That's the issue.
     
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    I believe in this case that it is. It's part of their labor agreement.
    Ok (shrug), just like everyone else. Are you suggesting that upper management doesn't get paid until a profit is shown?
    I suggest you bring that to the bargaining table.
     
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    True. Those that want more pay for doing less should look into a government job!
     
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    Good luck to them but if they are effectively demanding 10% average pay raises a year for 4 years they are being a tad unrealistic IMO.
     
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    A worker is not an owner. A worker is paid the agreed upon wage, whether the firm makes money or loses money.
     
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    I replied to the previous post, which you ignored and took another direction. Thanks for not following along and adding nothing to the topic.
     

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