UNIVERSALISM as a synthetical RELIGON for every kind of FAITH

FIRST, what is UNIVERSALISM (?) and what do we know about it till now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism_(disambiguation)

Universalists do not believe in anything as a Eternal Sin. The fact, that we deal with it points at a premature state of Our civilisation. One might say the religion is what one makes of it, ut the final answer is just hidden everywhere.
Nostradamus spoke about the end of the days saying the "genious physicist" is going to be the Emperor and that he will engage himself into a relationship with a woman that faked Her marriage. He also spoke about "religion changed by weird imagination". Simply put - the dogmas right now aren't working and the only one to judge is not the Son of God, but Human Son. That person is going to be given the greatest power to rule the Universal Society for some period of time. Like THAT IS the Prime Directive from Star Trek - one cannot build a machine like that - because it is alive and the respect to something infinite, without the final border nor place in time to start - that is a respect to something eternal. What we are dealing with is normal to every premature civilisation that always goes through that kind of process, as the "rising wild cats". Once we are in this Universal Society our Emperor (there "always" have to be lots of pretenders) will hold something like the "Presidency" for the Universe. Do not worry. From my calculations it is going to be 16.000 years. Faith united gives Universalism, but it always takes two to Tango.

 

As a Gnostic Christian, I am a Universalist and would agree that there is no sin that is not forgivable.

Many esoteric and mystical people use, --- as above so below, --- in trying to find the best rules to live life by.

In many cases that is quite helpful. Not in this issue though as here we can be hurt while in heaven we cannot.

Not sure where your topic wants to go from here.

Regards
DL

 

Probably just like you I preffer difficult questions than easy answers. My vision of life is trying to create something out of nothing, just because this process gives real questions. I believe things that are certain are not necessary true, and trying to destroy them always gives a possibility to find something true one can built ones consciousness on. Accoridng to top psychologist Peter Laustner most of the things we strongly believe are faked reactions.
Where do I want this to come to? I'd like people of different beliefs try concentrate on something that seems like a nonsense. Perhaps that would fit to the scheme, just because when they say what they really believe in, it might bring some true vallue on the table.

 

DL.... I am seriously impressed. Up until now I did not know that you were a universalist or a Gnostic Christian!

I also consider myself a Gnostic Christian and I am also a universalist!


http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

After some of the other things you have written, I am surprised.

Then you will agree with this.

The only God fit to rule men and women is a man or a woman. That is how it has always been and all we have ever had. Who but a man can express the will of God?

There have always only been men and women of good hearts able to express God’s real will.

Like Jesus and his wife who preached to seek God perpetually even after finding a bit of him or her within the self. We are to perpetually raise the bar of excellence for ourselves and our God.

Regards
DL

 

So you are aware of the tradition that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and Mary may have had a child?

I was kind of shocked by what I read about this in…..

http://www.amazon.ca/The-Thomas-Book-Gospel-Brother-ebook/dp/B0041D8YXW

I read this book in DEcember of 2012 and was in a state of awe for over a year afterward by the implications of all this!

 

One of the best explanations for universal salvation that I ever read was from a near death experiencer.

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

There are a lot of scholars working on this at present.

Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUw9j_JitYE

Regards
DL

 

I am not impressed as they speak for heaven without showing the logic trail.

Reincarnation would be like a soul masturbating so if any want to think us all that cheep then, oh well.

You forget that Jesus preached that men are free from God. You have us slaved to God if you buy into that reincarnation view.

Regards
DL

 

Nah,...
It will be in 2025AD that Israel recognizes that Jesus was actually The Elijah, returned as it was prophesied in Mal 4:6.
They will say Jesus actually did everything allover again as described in 1Ki 18.

Then they will remind the whole Bible believing world that Jesus said "I am the Truth."
Truth is the lord.
Truth sets us free.
Truth is the image of Reality, it father.
Truth is what saves us from extinction.

Truth is the God men want when they endorse leaders, not liars.

 

Truth is that all priests and imams lie continually about Gods they cannot possibly fathom as they all say that God is unfathomable.

Regards
DL

 

Pastors, priests and Imams may well be shocked.......... at the simplicity of what the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ YHWH is actually wanting us to do with our lives?!

http://www.thequickenedword.com/rhema/BobJonesTestimonyAugust81975DeathExperience.htm

 

They benefit from repeating things which are true, too.
And until Jesus, man had no clue that his father was Reality.

The over all story is that making Laws against sexual immorality doesn't stop the hurting of fatherless children.
By teaching them that sex is fun and adults engage in this as an example of how to act, bastards start appearing in growing numbers.
Religion has opposed this cultural behavior.

They could not explain why these acts were harmful, nor did they have the facts to show violent crime rises when bastards appear.

Now, they can see, from Statistics, that crime and costs become enormous when Gays and feminists create a sexual revolution as took place in 1960.
Truth can now change the minds of married women and wise men and honest tax paying citizens.
Truth can replace force, as Islam is using.

 

Thanks for the bigotry. Not.

Regards
DL

 

There's no such thing as a Gnostic Christian. To be a Gnostic would mean you'd also have to disbelieve the bible. The bible says Jesus was made manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). A Gnostic wouldn't believe that's true because then Jesus would be considered corrupt in their eyes. So, the only way you could call yourself a Christian would be to say that the bible is wrong. That's a contradiction.

 

The more vague a religion, the harder it is to argue against, don't you find? But at the same time, it also provides less for the believer to actually believe or do. Bit of a trade-off there, I would say.

Universalism doesn't appeal much to me for these reasons, though mainly also because it likewise postulates some positive claim about deities that is intellectually dishonest and ultimately useless except as some kind of emotional crutch, connected as in so many other faiths with notions of life after death.

 

Why should I drink the distilled water of universalism when I have the rich mead of my ancestors' faith?

All religions are not the same. Pretending they are so is to do a great disservice to the people that follow them.

 

I don't understand this logic.

 

Universalism teaches one god for all people. I am a polytheist; I worship many gods and they are not yours. I worship my ancestors and they are not yours. I may welcome you at the table when it is time to worship my gods and my ancestors, and I may join you in worshiping your ancestors, but I want no part in a diluted religion that says that all gods and all ancestors are the same.

 

Who are the many gods you worship?

 

The Aesir and Vanir, the Norse and Germanic gods of pre-Christian Europe.

 

Well, that makes 3 of us here. I am kinda, sorta in the Gnostic camp, although my thinking varies a bit from the original Gnosticism on some points. I didn't know I agree with Gnosticism until later in life when I discovered they thought like I did, and I came upon my own without ever knowing about them. Just kinda came naturally for myself. Seemed to be common sense.

 

Ah, OK. So, uhh... What have these gods done for you lately?

 

Aside from fathering my ancestors? They've helped me find my family, helped me build stronger bonds with a community I love, and blessed me with small portions of their wisdom and might.

 

Sounds similar to Shintoism.

Do they have any religious text? Perhaps any religious backgrounds? Any clues to their existence? I mean, you are in a religious forum, so I gotta ask annoying questions