US Bombs Syria for Israel. Killer Meme Makes Sense of It.

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  1. Munkle

    Munkle Active Member

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    This meme says it all short and sweet. Anyone can google the sources and wake themselves up. This is what is happening.


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/03/4e/de034e350d5d050c252ecc3f8183e0ef.png

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    When All is Going According to the Plan

    "Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is
    guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even
    more important for us than that of Syria...Every kind of inter-Arab
    confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to
    the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria
    and in Lebanon..." - Oded Yinon, Israeli Foreign Ministry, "A Strategy for
    Israel in the Nineteen Eighties"


    "Israel can shape its strategic environment...by weakening, containing, and
    even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein
    from power in Iraq..." Douglas Feith, David Wurmser, "A Clean Break: A New
    Strategy for Securing the Realm
    (Israel)" 1996

    "...we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with
    Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off,
    Iran." -General Wesley Clark, 2007

     
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    mbk734 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a good topic for the conspiracy theory section.
     
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    "...we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with
    Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off,
    Iran." -General Wesley Clark, 2007

    Gee whiz Wes, all that should have happened six years ago.

    Oh well.
     
  4. Munkle

    Munkle Active Member

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    LOL even when they tell you flat-out, in their own words, you won't believe it.
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Israel is a puppet state of the USA
     
  6. Munkle

    Munkle Active Member

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    It's exactly the other way around, or they wouldn't have been able to cover up the USS Liberty.




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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Sure, America is controlled by an objectively weaker country because something more easily explained by human incompetence happened. That makes sense..
     
  8. Munkle

    Munkle Active Member

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    You obviously know nothing about the USS Liberty.
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    The world is full of stupid people doing stupid things. What do you think is more likely: Some idiot Israeli captain actually mistook a US ship for an Egyptian ship, or that everything we know about geopolitics is wrong?
     
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    Munkle Active Member

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    OK, how about an education. To pick just one piece, Joint chief of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer investigation (there are many others)

    http://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/ul-moorer.html

    USS Liberty Attack Was Deliberate

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    BETHESDA, Md.—While state department officials and historians converge on Washington this week to discuss the 1967 war in the Middle East, I am compelled to speak out about one of U.S. history’s most shocking cover-ups.

    On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked our proud naval ship — the USS Liberty — killing 34 American servicemen and wounding 172. Those men were then betrayed and left to die by our own government.

    U.S. military rescue aircraft were recalled — not once, but twice — through direct intervention by the Johnson administration. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara’s cancellation of the Navy’s attempt to rescue the Liberty, which I confirmed from the commanders of the aircraft carriers America and Saratoga, was the most disgraceful act I witnessed in my entire military career.

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    PHOTO: Courtesy of U.S. Navy The USS Liberty is shown under way in the Chesapeake Bay on July 29, 1967, seven weeks after she was damaged by Israeli air and surface forces while operating off the Sinai Peninsula during the Six-Day War. Before leaving the Mediterranean Ocean, she was repaired at Malta.

    To add insult to injury, Congress, to this day, has failed to hold formal hearings on Israel’s attack on this American ship. No official investigation of the attack has ever permitted the testimony of the surviving crewmembers.

    A 1967 investigation by the Navy, upon which all other reports are based, has now been fully discredited as a cover-up by its senior attorney. Capt. Ward Boston, in a sworn affidavit, recently revealed that the court was ordered by the White House to cover up the incident and find that Israel’s attack was “a case of mistaken identity.”

    Some distinguished colleagues and I formed an independent commission to investigate the attack on the USS Liberty. After an exhaustive review of previous reports, naval and other military records, including eyewitness testimony from survivors, we recently presented our findings on Capitol Hill. They include:
    • Israeli reconnaissance aircraft closely studied the Liberty during an eight-hour period prior to the attack, one flying within 200 feet of the ship. Weather reports confirm the day was clear with unlimited visibility. The Liberty was a clearly marked American ship in international waters, flying an American flag and carrying large U.S. Navy hull letters and numbers on its bow.

    • Despite claims by Israeli intelligence that they confused the Liberty with a small Egyptian transport, the Liberty was conspicuously different from any vessel in the Egyptian navy. It was the most sophisticated intelligence ship in the world in 1967. With its massive radio antennae, including a large satellite dish, it looked like a large lobster and was one of the most easily identifiable ships afloat.

    • Israel attempted to prevent the Liberty’s radio operators from sending a call for help by jamming American emergency radio channels.



    • Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned lifeboats at close range that had been lowered to rescue the most-seriously wounded. As a result, our commission concluded that:

    • There is compelling evidence that Israel’s attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew.

    • In attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against U.S. servicemen and an act of war against the United States.

    • The White House knowingly covered up the facts of this attack from the American people.

    • The truth continues to be concealed to the present day in what can only be termed a national disgrace.
    What was Israel’s motive in launching this attack? Congress must address this question with full cooperation from the National Security Agency, the CIA and the military intelligence services.

    The men of the USS Liberty represented the United States. They were attacked for two hours, causing 70 percent American casualties and the eventual loss of our best intelligence ship.

    These sailors and Marines were entitled to our best defense. We gave them no defense. Did our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own? If so, why? Does our government continue to subordinate American interests to Israeli interests? These are important questions that should be investigated by an independent, fully empowered commission of the American government.

    The American people deserve to know the truth about this attack. We must finally shed some light on one of the blackest pages in American naval history. It is a duty we owe not only to the brave men of the USS Liberty, but to every man and woman who is asked to wear the uniform of the United States.
     
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    I really don't care what some guy who investigated it says years later, contradicting his previous statement, when the narrative he advances still makes no sense. Why would Israel attack the USA a single time and then never again? Why would Israel attack the USA in the first place? I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe, in a world where L Ron Hubbard almost started a war with Mexico by firing missiles at their ships purely because of stupidity, that such a thing happening in different circumstances is all that crazy.
     
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    The US is a puppet state of Israel.
     
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    i'm already explaining to another guy why that's the dumbest thing anyone has ever believed, please refer to those comments
     
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    The USS Liberty incident was aggravated by the US government's treatment of the survivors and refusal to hold Israel accountable for a deliberate act of war.

    There is no doubt that Israel has a very tight control over US lawmakers. The US gifts Israel $3+ billion a year of which Israel spends ten percent to acquire ownership over US lawmakers. US taxpayers are subsidizing Israel's ownership of US lawmakers.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love how convoluted conspiracy theories get. US lawmakers are controlled by people they are paying to give them money.... Because a deal like that gives all the power to the guy getting paid...

    What if the US lawmakers are double secret Illuminati and are paying back 10 percent of the 10 percent kickback to rebuy the Isreali leadership?
     
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  16. Munkle

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    For the same reason as the Lavon Affair, or the King David Hotel, documented and admitted Israeli false flag attacks. The idea is to blame it on someone else. In this case the attack was supposed to be blamed on Egypt, to drag the US into the Six Day War and obliterate Egypt. The motto of Mossad is "War by Deception."

    You don't have to take a US admiral and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs word for it. You can listen to survivors.

    Phil Tourney who was a Seaman on the ship:





    Someone like you may never believe anything they don't want to believe. But the facts are irrefutable:

    - Israeli recon jets circled the ship for 4 hours in the morning, getting close enough to wave to the sailers, with two American flags flying full wind that you could see for miles. The USS Liberty was a unique American surveillance ship, nothing like an Egyptian transport, which Israel says they thought it was. They could see the American uniforms. They were waving to them.

    - Fighter jets then attacked the ship for two hours, with rockets, machine guns

    - Then they sent torpedo boats and shot torpedoes. The Liberty was unarmed. Sailors fought fires wounded. It was a miracle the ship didn't sink, like it was supposed to with no survivors, so the attack could be blamed on Egypt.

    - Last, they machine-gunned the life boats from close range.

    A more recent Chicago Tribune article:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html#page=1

    It's really not up in air whether Israel deliberately attacked an American ship. They only question left is why, and Admiral Moorer thinks it was to get us to attack Egypt. If you think Israel would never do such a thing, all you have to do is study the Lavon Affair and the King David Hotel

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

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    To get control of their owners to achieve self-control? Fantasy. That assumes intellect and will which is not evident.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, because it takes intellect to believe that this 10 percent of your own money thing is a way to control someone.

    Perhaps you believe the insurance company controls you if they pay out 10 percent of the money you paid them?
     
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    The USA gifts Israel $ 3+ billion a year. Ten percent of that is $300+ million. You can buy truckloads, planeloads and shiploads of US lawmakers with that money who will vote even more payments to Israel.
     
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    Right. What happens the second these supposedly controlled US lawmakers don't do what their supposed Israeli masters want them to do in your mind?

    Because in reality the only recourse is to stop paying back 10 percent of the money they are getting from the people they seek to control. The law makers will simply shrug, and start giving 3 billion dollars to someone else willing to play ball. Your money conspiracy scheme is not only dumb, but it can't work.
     
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    AIPAC cares more about Israel than America. These American AIPAC members sing the Israeli national anthem.

     
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    I grew bored with arguing against the 9/11 nutters in the conspiracy thread a long time ago, but I have to say there's something fun about the rediculously illogical structure of conspiracy thinking.

    Look here's two videos of the American national anthem.




    Oh snap. They must love America twice as much!

    Or maybe a video of people singing a song is not an argument at all.
     
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    Priceless. So this version of the American national anthem has a different tune and is in Hebrew!

     
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    Ever heard of being behind schedule? But how coincidental:

    - Iraq
    -Libya
    -Syria
    - Somalia
    -ongoing push to bomb Iran
     

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