US Defence Intelligence: We Will Facilitate the Rise of IS

[MENTION=66297]perotista[/MENTION]....

No one gives Obama free pass. If he were the president/prime minister of my country, I would be utterly embarrassed. The guy is simply a joke. Not fit to run a council estate let alone the country. But that's my view. Americans begged to differ and voted for him. However, it's convenient to blame everything on him. And that's something I disagree with. His foreign policies are heavily influenced by the neocons. As a matter of fact, they probably run the U.S foreign policy. If I recall well, the Republicans were crossing into Libya and Syria, hugged and kissed with the very same people who have American soldiers blood on their hands. Verifiable. For me, it's high treason. The ultimate insult to the U.S Army and families of fallen soldiers. But hey, Americans seem to lost their self-respect long time ago and let their elites make fools of them any time they want. It's clear that U.S laws and the U.S constitution do not apply to neither democrats nor republicans. Both sides are above the law.

 

The elites above the law, both parties elites, pretty much.

 

What makes you think they screwed up?

 

Except that is an obvious fabricated report.

 

In case you haven't already seen it, you might like to cast your eye over THIS. Sibel Edmonds insight on Gladio B is first hand and first class. Parts 2-4 can be seen HERE too, for those who are interested.

 

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I simply don't buy into this left/right, republican/democrat smokescreen that so many here continue to fall for. The ruling elite use the Hegelian dialectic as a means of division to maintain their control and direct policy towards desired ends. Politicians of both parties are so thoroughly corrupt and self serving that these manufactured divisions should be obvious by now.

The whole thing is a Platonic shadow play.

 

Absolutely shocking. I'm not going to post pictures of what's been going on in Palmyra. Macabre. Slaughter of innocent people, beheadings, setting people on fire...etc...etc...you name it. The U.S foreign policy makers must be proud of themselves.

Just days after seizing Palmyra, Isis massacres 400 people in the ancient city


Isis has slaughtered more than 400 mostly women and children in the ancient city of Palmyra, two days after capturing the ancient city.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-400-people-in-the-ancient-city-10272934.html

In the meantime the useful idiot plays golf and eats ice-cream.

Mass Slaughter of Women, Children in Palmyra While Obama Golfs, Eats Ice Cream for Reporters

The man has no care in the world. The golf is more important than anything else.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/...ile-obama-golfs-eats-ice-cream-for-reporters/

 

Nobody here in USA is beheading anyone. That is being done by the muslim animals of the third world. Here in USA everyone is watching TV, going out and doing fun things, and otherwise enjoying our peaceful days. And every time a muslim beheads another muslim; that's one less potential terrorist on the planet. It's a win-win for humanity. All we have to do is protect the other religions and let the muslims exterminate themselves.

 

These are perfect examples of why having a country that tries to control speech is hopefully never the hegemon.

 

Oh no, Sunni mediaeval savages, which U.S political elites fully support, just continue slaughtering innocent people across the globe. Your Takfiri storm-troopers successfully ethnically cleansed almost all Christians from Iraq, most of Syria and the next in line are Lebanese Christians. Well done the USA, you successfully destroyed the oldest civilization in the Middle East by aligning yourselves with Sunni radical medieval savages. Those lunatics are completely out of order. You are fooling yourselves if you think that they can be controlled any longer.

 

Obama was broadly recognized as a very able politician, when he was successful on the political marked inside USA. However, when he became president, his limitations have shown up soon. Ignorance and misjudgments all the way.

 

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry.

 

The thread and title are false, the US never said they would facilitate the rise of IS

 

Dems had majorities in both houses then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/110th_United_States_Congress

 

Ronnie, it's not our fault you have a problem with reading comprehension. Your own education is your own responsibility, don't blame others for lack of it.

 

The Democrats took over the House and Senate in 2007. Two years later in 2009 they added the Presidency. Shortly after that they had a super majority. At any rate, during the year in question(2012), it was a full boat Democrat majority rule. As for Bush handing Obama a stable Iraq and middle east, it is a fact. Obama has since led and encouraged the current state of gross instability and the rise of ISIS. Deny it all you want. Is is nevertheless true.

 

It's a historical fact, when Bush left the White House he handed over to Obama a Middle East and North Africa that wasn't a basket case like it became under Obama's failed policies.

Al Qaeda was checked in Yemen and the Horn of Africa on they day G.W. Bush left office.

The Taliban noticed back in 2005-2006 that the liberals in America had made the same mistake they made during the Vietnam War, that they politicized the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Taliban took advantage of it and started reentering Afghanistan after getting their butts whooped big time during 2001- 2002 and taking refuge in Pakistan to lick their wounds for a few years. What does Obama do ? He forces liberal PC rules of engagement upon our troops that favors the enemy and causes American troops to bleed and die on the battlefield. More American troops were killed in Afghanistan during the first four years of Obama's first term in office than during all of Bush's eight years as POTUS.

Then Obama supports the Arab Spring, supports the Muslim Brotherhood, throws two American allies under the bus (Mubarak and Gadaffi), back stabs Israel in the back, arms factions of Al Qaeda, while bad mouthing America and defending Islam. Then he right out lies to the American people telling them that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run when the truth was Al Qaeda was growing, was more dangerous, was splittering into other factions and was on the run, running all over the Middle East and Northern Africa where they weren't operating before 2009.

 

So what ? The fire was already an inferno by 2007 so blaming them for starting the fire is misdirected.

 

I'm not sure of that. I suspect it might have through back channels. The U.S. certainly never told me, but we have a lot of adventurous types doing the thinking for us .

 

The claim that Bush handed a "stable Iraq" to Obama is false. The Iraq war itself caused huge instability and putting the other side (Shia) of the century old (Shia vs Sunny) blood feud made matters "grossly" worse.

Iraq has been "grossly unstable" since the Iraq war and that is a fact that is abundantly clear to any who research the issue. To ignore this is gross negligence as was putting the Shia solely in power after the war. Putting the opposite side of a blood feud in sole power was filed under " recipe for disaster" and that is what was cooked up.

The Oligopolies that control Bush and the RED congress are the same Oligopolies that control Obama and the BLUE congress so the color of the flag one sits under makes little difference.

Obama is following the same policies as Bush and doing what his masters tell him, the same as Bush did.

Obama arming funding the extremist Islamists in Syria (including Al Qaeda and Al Nusra) in conjunction with the Saudi's and other Muslim nations who support "strict Sharia" further destabilized the region and helped to create ISIS.

Your big oversight is not recognizing that both Red and Blue are playing from the same playbook.

 

The 'so what' is the Democrats had all they needed to shut it down if they so chose to. They didn't.

 

It did not matter what they would have done ?? The damage was already done. You could not have flipped a switch in 2007 and magically made the bubble disappear.

What do you suggest could have been done ?

 

you brught it up, not me; apparently you thought it was important. Change your mind now now that your premise was incorrect?

 

ISIS terrorists may kill thousands of U.S. citizens and others but that's just not very important in comparison with overthrowing the Assad regime. And the free press somehow didn't notice this. Or even more ludicrous, the idea that they still don't know about it. You would think this is a story most people would pay a lot of attention to.