US House Republicans eye Scalise, Jordan in speaker race

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  1. Egoboy

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    Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives met on Wednesday to choose between two candidates - Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan - to lead their narrow majority a week after a small group of dissidents ousted Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

    As lawmakers gathered for the closed-door vote, neither candidate appeared to hold a clear advantage. Scalise, who is No. 2 on the leadership ladder, has drawn the support of many veteran and establishment Republican lawmakers, while Jordan, an outspoken leader of the party's right wing, had the backing of many conservatives.

    McCarthy could be in the mix as well, as he has not discouraged talk of a comeback, as could Patrick McHenry, the acting speaker.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-republicans-seek-unite-around-new-speaker-2023-10-11/

    Unnamed seditious former President backs Jordan, because he's doesn't like candidates who get shot.

    Here's a man of deep conviction who probably feels like the great majority of them

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    "I think Jim Jordan will end up getting it, and if not, Scalise would be fine," said Representative Ralph Norman, who supports Jordan.
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    So, who wins here? And how long does it take?
    Scalise?
    Jordan?
    McCarthy comeback?
    Jeffries? (Clearly would garner the most votes in a floor vote today)
    Field?

    I think it'll be Scalise and not until late next week.
     
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    if McCarthy came back, any agreement he had with MAGA in the past would be null and void - they would no longer have a strangle hold on him
     
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    Well we already know that Scalise is tough and has guts, he recovered very well from the left wing nut bag that shot him.

    So at least we know that much about him
     
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    Scalise is already their majority leader this vote is about Speaker of the House.
     
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    Which is why no MAGA Republican would vote for him. It would be tantamount to admitting they shouldn't have ousted the Speaker. A McCarthy vote then becomes a vote for a democratic speaker. If the Magas had any sense of politics, they would sense where the situation is headed.

    McCarthy cannot regain the speakership, under any circumstance if you're the GOP. He's too compromised.
     
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    he was Compromised under MAGA control, but he would be freed from that if reelected
     
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    I hope the Speaker is one of the most extreme Republican they can find. Hand Pelosi and the Democrats exactly what they think they want. Problem is, they will have to eat whatever the GOP shovels down their throats or Biden accomplishes zero. Not good for a president running for re-election. Should have kept McCarthy. He was harmless in comparison. And no, this won't destroy the Republican Party, as much as you all wish it would.
     
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    He would be compromised from the Republican prospective, as he would owe his fidelity then to the Democrats who put him back into power and who now curries his favor. It is unacceptable by any political measure for him to return as Speaker.
     
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    they may have no choice, they may not have the votes without dems
     
  10. Egoboy

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    As I said, somebody who will lead their slim majority... None of these clowns is capable of leading the entire House...

    If this vote was about who will be Speaker of the House, they'd be voting on the floor for Speaker of the House, instead of private votes to figure it out beforehand.

    They certainly don't want a repeat of that public shitshow in January

    So, who ya got?
     
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  11. Egoboy

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    I salute that, but he also has Mulitple Myeloma, which can be very serious (and was what led to my moms death).

    Not that any speaker elected now should plan on a long term career in the job.

    As they said in Argo, he'd be the best bad option we have...
     
  12. Egoboy

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    LOL... this election has nothing to do with what Biden can accomplish the next 16 months.. that ship sailed when the Chaos Caucus was voted in in 2022... you could elect the R version of Sam Rayburn as Speaker and it wouldn't matter in the least... Joe got his stuff done in the first 2 years and America will note the difference next November...

    This election is about who gets a line about as thick as Kevins on the Wiki page

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    I wonder if this voting session will take as much effort as the previous. I don't think either are that universally popular in their party. I would be surprised if one is elected on the first go round.
     
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    If only we had an actual news source......

    Oh wait

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/house-speaker-live-updates-rcna119455

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    The vote was 113-99 in favor of Rep. Steve Scalise over Rep. Jim Jordan.
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    Great! So the R's are going to put Scalise on the floor with that tight a race?

    Best of luck there... gonna make McCarthy's 15 rounds look like a coin toss....
     
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    GOP required 15 votes to get McCarthy elected and that was with only 20 initially voting against him. How many ballots is it going to take when you start with 99 voting against the establishment choice?
     
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    I would wish you luck with that, but I would rather the Dems crash and burn as they all too often do when the American people realize they are lying to them.
     
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    Right now the American People realize they are being lied to by Trump and the Trump supporters (See Presidential Election in 2020 and midterm election in 2022). There is no reason to think that the American people are going to see Republicans in a different light in 2024
     
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    Oh I am happy with Scalise, no problem. But all this could have been avoided had the Dems had the country's interest foremost and not their own political gains imagined or not.
     
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    Is that why Trump is so down in the polls?
     
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    If Jordan is elected speaker, he has to give up his seat on the judiciary committee, correct?
     
  22. Egoboy

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    Says who?? Some prehistoric rules?


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  23. Egoboy

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    The country's interest would have been best served by having Hakeem Jeffries elected speaker in January. Maybe a few bills would have squeaked through instead of all those well-meant efforts to (politically) curbstomp the trannies going nowhere...

    But I hope Scalise gets the job without a single D vote, cause that's probably what he has to do...

    And he has landmines like this guy to sidestep

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    Rep. Carlos Gimenez, R-Fla., told reporters that he still wants to support McCarthy as speaker.

    "I was going to vote for Kevin McCarthy and I'm going to continue to vote for Kevin McCarthy until he calls me and says otherwise," he said.
    ENDSNIP
     
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    We are still over a year until the election. The polls at this point mean squat.

    Wait until the nominees are actually finalized, the Trump trials start exposing more the facts and Trump starts getting convicted in some of them.
     
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    When he starts getting convicted, he'll being leading in MAGA polls, 107 to -10
     

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