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US Serviceman Refused Service at Muslim Gas Staion...

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Libhater, Jul 15, 2012.

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    The manager looks like she has been cowed into submission by the rioting rednecks. I still haven't heard anybody explain what happened.
     
    leftysergeant, Jul 19, 2012
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    Jallen289 New Member

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    Concerning the comments of Islam...

    The religion is evil. To somehow suggest that Islam and Sharia law impacts females in any positive manner is absurd to say the least. If you want to debate the religion, I promise I'll embarrass you.

    The sole purpose of Islam is to spread the word to non-believing lands. If the people do not convert, or pay Jizya (non-believer tax) than death and annihilation are the only remaining options.
     
    Jallen289, Jul 19, 2012
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  3. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    Citation needed.
     
    leftysergeant, Jul 19, 2012
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    Jallen289 New Member

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    Gladly.

    {Qur'an 9:73}

    {Qur'an 47:4}

    {Qur'an 2:191}

    {Muslim, Sahih Muslim Book 019, Hadith Number 4294}
     
    Jallen289, Jul 19, 2012
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  5. Jallen289

    Jallen289 New Member

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    There are hundreds of passages in the Qur'an that prove this is not a religion of peace, but specifically a religion of war.
     
    Jallen289, Jul 19, 2012
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    mikemikev Banned

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    It would make more sense to refuse to serve Jews since that is the group that tricked the US army into war in the Middle East.
     
    mikemikev, Jul 19, 2012
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  7. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    The most important passage is al-Baqarah 190:
    "Fight in the way of Allah against those that fight against you, but be not aggressive. Surely, Allah loves not the aggressor."(Translated by Maulana Muhammad Ali, 1917.)
     
    leftysergeant, Jul 19, 2012
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    So this one quote that took you over almost two hours to find is the most important? If anything it proves that, since the majority of passages call for war and one calls for non aggression, the Qur'an is a huge contradiction. You've given me no real response. This is the most important passage to you because it talks about not being aggressive, but the majority of the book calls for the death of non-believers and for Islamist radicals to wage war on non-believers.

    Give me a break. I see through that.
     
    Jallen289, Jul 19, 2012
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    leftysergeant New Member

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    Only on the ones who occupied the center at Mecca, and who attempted to suppress Islam.

    All the passages requiring that the Muslims meet force with force require that the Muslims make piece with those who do not attempt to overthrow Islam.
     
    leftysergeant, Jul 19, 2012
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    mikemikev Banned

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    Yeah, how can you "not be aggressive" when "smiting those who refuse to pay the Jizya in the way of Allah". It doesn't make any sense. Are you supposed to chop people's heads off for refusing to bow down to your home town in a friendly and cheerful manner?
     
    mikemikev, Jul 19, 2012
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    mikemikev Banned

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    So why did Muslim armies launch an invasion of Spain?

    Is "overthrow Islam" referring to a refusal to pay a special tax or bow down to Mo's hometown?
     
    mikemikev, Jul 19, 2012
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    Pay attention. Those passages apply to how the war to take Mecca from the idolators was to be conducted.

    It is not a commandment to go and raid the kufir and convert them at the point of a sword, so long as those kufir were not interfering with the Muslims.
     
    leftysergeant, Jul 19, 2012
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    mikemikev Banned

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    So explain why they invaded Spain. The historical record shows your ad hoc inventions to be false.
     
    mikemikev, Jul 19, 2012
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    Spaniards were invading North Africa and the Middle East like everyone else.
     
    leftysergeant, Jul 19, 2012
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    Doubtful. And shouldn't the Muslims have stopped at the Spanish border? Arab Muslims had fought their way across all of North Africa. Why did they invade Spain and give a choice between Jizya, Islam or Death if the rule is only to be applied to lands around Mecca?

    The record shows your claims to be false.
     
    mikemikev, Jul 19, 2012
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    As much as I do not like the fact that people discriminate, it should be their right to.
     
    Makedde, Jul 19, 2012
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    she was a Muslim? of course she is gonna apologize, even if she did nothing wrong, she wants the protestors to go away so she can run her business


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    Clearly, both of the women feared that this was going to turn violent. I would have bet on it.

    Terrorism against minorities is an old tradition around those parts.
     
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    Completely untrue. I urge you to read the passages surrounding the passages I provided you. Nowhere does it exclude these aggressive actions to one certain instance.

    {Qur'an 9:5}

    {Qur'an 9:29}

    This passage give multiple reasons to fight. Nothing is said of Mecca.
     
    Jallen289, Jul 19, 2012
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    How is this a religion of peace when the first option is conquering and aggression?
     
    Jallen289, Jul 19, 2012
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