Veterans to Congress: End Forever Wars

Discussion in 'Veterans' started by Ethereal, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yes there is, and it's Russia. They own 30% of the world's mineral assets, and there's no way Washington can control the world under its liberal new world order, unless they destroy the Federation and force themselves upon the Russian people. It's what we call; 'Democracy in Action'.. :roflol:

    This is why Russia's Intelligence services keeps an eye on all our regime change trickeries. American NGO's are not allowed. Also Russia's military capabilities surpasses ours in many respects. Not that it stops NATO from sending more troops to the Russian border.


    (Sing to the tune of; 'Spring is Busting Out All Over'.)

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    War is busting out all over,
    from China to the Middle Sea.
    It's here and there, and everywhere
    as we shall shortly see.


    Now chaos is my middle name,
    which I am proud to say,
    and for the ones not in the know

    it's called the American way.. Jeannette
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  2. Robert E Allen

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    Russia is the bad guys whatevers we do to them is justified.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I tend to agree.
     
  4. Starjet

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    wrong.
     
  5. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel is the only moral nation in the Mideast. It is the only nation in the Mideast that is based on the principles of freedom of thought, freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, and freedom of the press--the foundation and principles of a free society. Every other single nation in Mideast is an Islamic or secular dictatorship.

    Personally, I nuked them all out of existence, except for Israel.

    Is it a sign of dementia when someone mocks the freest and most prosperous nation to ever exist while praising and kissing the asses of every tyranny and dictatorship? Is there some type of mental disease that allows one to ignore reality and engage in fantasy? Well, yes. It's called mysticism, or better yet, belief in the supernatural. Or more precisely, religion.
     
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  6. Eleuthera

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    That is an extremely naïve statement, but maybe you don't know what AIPAC is and what it does.

    For example, 20+ states in this country have passed legislation that criminalize any protests like BDS against Israel.

    You are asleep at the switch. Israeli citizens have populated the Pentagon at least since the time of Ronald Reagan.
     
  7. Jeannette

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    Then it's not those who kill, lie, steal, and cheat that are the bad guys, it's Russia?





    Those voices, those voices
    they keep telling me:
    "Fear Putin they say
    for what you can't see".


    Is that him up there!
    Oh no he's down here.
    My God I think he's everywhere.

    Aghhh! - Jeannette


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  8. Robert E Allen

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    Mostly i am tired of apologizing for being the best country on the planet.. the country that does the most good. The country that destroyed the evil of the Soviet Union..

    I've absolutely had it with people calling us the bad guys..
     
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    Circa 1968 people started to elect some Congress people who would
    no longer vote to fund Vietnam.
    And normal looking people were part of Peace marches.
    NIXON was out of funding and had little choice but to withdraw.


    We have one Presidential candidate who is a Peace candidate,
    yet she is relatively without support. Tulsi Gabbard
    Go figure. I can't.



    Moi :oldman:




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    never mind that, who are these enemies of the US? What did Saddam ever do that counteracted the good he did by draining Iran dry. Because he invaded some kingdom? what had that go to do with our national security? Did we think that saddam didn't want to sell the oil he would invade for?
    we worked with him as practically an ally for 10 years before his invasion of Kuwait?

    These people are not enemies of the American people
    And why do these terrorist organizations have a problem with America? Maybe because we tried to exploit their own resources, have invaded their countries, Helped plop Isreal down in the middle of their land, and continue to support Israeli's expansionist policies.

    Now, it we did not overthow the regime in Iran in the 50s, prop up oppressive governments so that we can get oil, and didn't plop down Isreal in Palestine I don't think we would even have a terrorist problem in the mid east. The problem is of our own making. Do you think the wars that we started in Iraq have done anything to help our future relations with the arab people, I don't think killing 500,000 Iraqis is a way to build lasting friendship.

    We want to make americans safe? Pull out of the Mideast entirely.
    Guarantee Isrreal rights to land granted it in the UN charter when it was formed. All conquered land to return to the Palestinians political control but Isreal will be allowed to keep military bases in the territory but they can not leave the bases except in transit to Isreal.
     
  11. Jeannette

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    And Tulsi's the only Democrat that has a chance of winning. Maybe they're looking for another Hillary.



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    that's what I be
    to give you all
    of what you see.


    But I do lie, as Hillary knows
    she thought she'd win
    Oh well, that's how it goes kiddo!
    - Jeannette

     
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    For heaven's sake, since Kennedy's Peace Corp what good have we done? And they killed him.
     
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    For starters, and just for starters...

    https://www.usaid.gov
     
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    I have only supported one war since 9/11, and that was the invasion of Afghanistan and the pursuit of bin Laden.

    The wars against Iraq, Libya, and the proxy war against Syria were all counterproductive, and we should not have waged them.

    The war against ISIS in Syria and Iraq was necessary, but wouldn't have been necessary if we had left Iraq, Libya and Syria alone.
     
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    Why are we still in those countries that do not want us?
     
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  16. Jeannette

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    Why do you say that, Assad was voted in with a large majority and with a large turn out.

    Sounds like Nazism to me.

    So if something isn't within the perimeters of your own comprehension, then it can't possibly exist. I call that hubris.





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    with souls a-wandering in the night,
    of pagan lusts, barbarity,
    of malice, harm and cruelty.


    We pray that there will be a day
    when evil such, will slide away
    and man finds that he's free once more

    with hatred's gone and also war - Jeannette



     
  17. Starjet

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    A love of tyrants? Incomprehensible.? Oh no. I understand--flattery and bribery for political favors to acquire that what you can't earn on your own. I understand it perfectly--its called hatred of the good by the mediocre who can't compete in a free society, it's called "pull peddling"-- it's not what know, but whose ass you kiss.

    And if anything is filled with Darkness, its religion, all the time, on every nation in the world; and for a very few, Reason is the light that has led them out of that Darkness, the darkness and evil of mystical altruism.

    Defending Assad, and Putin, and Mao, and Xi Jinping? It makes an honest being's stomach queasy.

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." That makes the human soul fill with pride at being alive.

    BTW: I heard Xi Jinping and the CPC are kidnapping the young Hong Kong idealists and railroading them to internment camps in China. Oh, that's due process. That's justice. That's respecting the principle of law and individual rights. You defend that. I rather not--too much respect for reason, reality, liberty, and justice.
     
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  18. Starjet

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    LSD legal were you live? I ask out of curiosity because I hear it cause paranoid delusions.

    Now, go ahead, be offended. But truly, its the only logical explanation for such an asinine statement.
     
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    But that's what Russian is good at, theft, state terrorism, slaughter, torture, midnight knocks at the door, all of its history, especially in the late 20th century.

    The spirit of Russia? How about Midnight in Moscow.

     
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    I'm not really offended, just ashamed.

    Further, I have no obligation to embrace the fantasy that Israel has the best interests of the US citizenry at heart.

    You may embrace that fantasy, but I will pass, thanks just the same.
     
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    Israel should do what is in Israel's best interests.

    Currently their best interests mostly align with ours..
     
  22. Eleuthera

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    That is the official Washington & Tel Aviv position, yes. I do not buy their propaganda. Actions, like those of June 1967, speak louder than words.
     
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    I assume you're referring to Israel's deliberate massacre of 34 Americans aboard the USS Liberty.

    Netanyahu was at least honest enough to admit the true nature of America's "alliance" with Israel:

    "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."- Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, Israeli politician

    https://quotes.k0nsl.org/netanyahu-america-can-dry-up-and-blow-away.html
     
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    The liberty again?

    Israel asked to know the locations of all of our ships. We moved the liberty and didn't tell the Israelis soon enough and it was mistaken for an Egyptian ship..

    The Israelis paid the families of the victims thr modern equivalent of 32 million dollars and apologized for the mistake.

    Feel free to quit spreading lies..
     
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    • Hmmm. Poor analysis on your part--I never said Israel has America interests at heart. Hopefully not. I have on said that to accuse the Pentagon of being run by Israeli Jews is paranoid delusion, not intellectual insightfulness.
     

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