Voter suppression

You said there was no right to vote, I showed you where it appears FIVE times in the constitution.
so yeah, it's not in the Bill of Rights, there is still a right to vote...in the constitution, and in the statutes.

 

obviously some people don't understand that the constitution is meant to be a framework

and that the 'voting rights act' elaborates on our constitutional right to vote

 

Wow you really do insist on straw men don't you? I said there is no constitutional right to vote. You called that my fantasy and we're unable to substantiate your claim.

 

Did you miss the part where the Constitution mentions the "right to vote" FIVE times?

 

Are you citing a secondary source because you can't read 18th century English? What's the hold up? Name me what amendment guarantees the right to vote, or what article does. You can't, because no such thing exists.

 

what a joke, how can you just ignore reality?

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged…"

 

No , I linked you to an article that explained it,

But here you go, can you read this, do you understand what it says?

Or this

Is that the actual constitution talking about a "RIGHT to VOTE"?

 

Keep reading dude. You'll find it says "... based on race." It does not establish voting as a right. ATD. Here's the full quote.

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

Entirely different meaning. But you knew that, and that's why you cut it off early.

 

Oh, going for the straw man again? I never said "the constitution doesn't mention the right to vote" I said "there is no constitutional right to vote." In other words, "the constitution does not guarantee the right to vote."

When it says states can't bar anyone over 18 from voting based on age, it isn't saying "the right of all persons over 18 to vote shall not be infringed" as your rhetoric suggests you believe, it simply states that states can't use age.

I challenge you again to back up your original claim - where is the constitutional right to vote established?

 

it's addressing the right to vote, you know, the right you say doesn't exist

 

Which are you objecting to? That the racists were White Southern Democrats or that the Abolitionists of the North were White Republican Conservatives?

 

Oh yay, more straw men.

 

Because we all know democrats are too stupid to figure out how to vote. Well, at least that is what you are suggesting.

 

you're projecting, i referenced the constitution

you know, the part that refers to the right to vote

really, so how did y'all lose so miserably if democrats can't figure out how to vote

no, that's the line the gop feeds its parrots

 

Well, maybe they are not as stupid as you think they are; thereby, putting to shame the false propaganda that the GOP is trying to suppress the vote.

 

You mean the part which does not establish the right to vote? *rollseyes*

 

I'll bet you color inside the lines too.
It's true that white southern democrats included racists, but the racists switched parties lured by the Southern Strategy of the GOP.
The Republican Party weren't conservatives in 1860, they were the Radical Republicans, the party of big government and big ideas.
Before the Civil War it was "The United States are" after the Civil War it's "The United States is".
We stopped being a collection of sovereign states, and became one nation.
Thank you GOP of the 1860's, you lovable Liberals.

 

OH, dufus rules huh, you win......because even though the constitution mentions the right to vote 5 times, you don't count that........

 

except that it does

that's funny, considering how the gop admits they're trying to restrict voting

[video=youtube;LHWcoLQfXeU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWcoLQfXeU[/video]

POWELL: I object to putting in place additional levels of voter ID that --

O'REILLY: One, show one.

POWELL: -- disenfranchise, disenfranchise those of our fellow citizens. I want to see a Republican Party that, rather than trying to make it more difficult to vote and restricting the number of days and hours you can vote, a Republican Party that says we want everybody to vote and we're going to give you a reason to vote for us.

O'REILLY: All right. But I don't --

O'REILLY: I don't know if asking for an ID is trying to restrict the vote -- I mean, I'm sorry. You should be able to prove who you are before you cast a ballot.

POWELL: No, you should be able to prove who you are when you register to vote. And when you make the proper registration and identify yourself, you shouldn't have to go to some higher level which is going to restrict some.

O'REILLY: But surely you know how fraud is committed. I mean Boston, in Chicago, you register and then you show up and it's not you.

POWELL: I have not seen any study that says fraud is a problem of such significance that these kinds of procedures were in place. And I'm glad to see that Governor Scott in Florida has recently said he is turning this back over to his -- his local communities to handle.

http://www.billoreilly.com/b/Bill-OReilly:-A-No-Spin-interview-with-Colin-Powell/672969850793442258.html

 

Oh what a bunch of malarkey. I hear this revisionist BS all the time from Lefties. Abraham Lincoln was not a radical. He was religious. Believing black people from Africa were unjustly enslaved was a religious and moral point. Lincoln was a conservative not a Marxist. There was a shift in the 60s in the Democrat party. This is when Racists in the South joined hands with the Socialist Democrats to create the modern welfare state. These Marxist precepts are what Liberalism is all about. Lincoln was right not left.

 

It's too bad you haven't attempted to read the context of any single time it was mentioned

 

Yeah, just because the constitution says "The right to vote" five times, is doesn't imply that there is a right to vote.
What a scholar of the constitution. How many times does the constitution say there is a right to free speech?

Oh, that's right it doesn't.....

 

Radicals can't be religious?
Believing that slaves should be freed was pretty radical in 1860.
You are stuck with current day party positions, parties shift over time. The GOP supported the transcontinental railroad, huge government borrowing to pay for a project that would be owned privately.
Does that sound like Paul Ryan?

 

It doesn't say you have it. Really, I don't know how this is so difficult for you. Yes, the Constitution mentions the right to vote, but apparently you don't comprehend how it does. It says you have the right to NOT be denied the right to vote because of age, the right to NOT be denied the right to vote because of race, et cetera. But you do not have the Constitutional right to vote.

really, if you think there is a constitutional right to vote, explain to me why the right to vote is mentioned five times in the constitution but is never affirmed in any way shape or form in the constitution. This is just sheer idiocy.

 

So tell me what was Liberal about Lincoln? Tell me all the liberal stuff.