Want to sign up for Trump's online volunteer program?

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  1. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    If you do, you have to sign this NDA first.

    After that, you're good to go. Except you have now waived your right to ever say anything bad about Donald Trump, his company, his products, offshoots of his company, nor any of his family -- even his extended family -- for the rest of your life.


    "To sign up on Trump's website, potential volunteers must agree to a 2,271-word non-disclosure agreement in which they also promise they won't compete against or say anything bad about Trump, his company, his family members or products – now and forever.

    The agreement is a required part of the sign-up process for Trump Red Dialer, an online call system that connects volunteers for the Republican presidential candidate with potential voters.

    Earlier this year, volunteers for Trump in New York had to sign non-disclosure agreements in person before making phone calls at Trump Tower. But the website requirement is the first indication that online volunteers must also sign the form, even if they'll never meet a Trump family member, attend a Trump rally, meet a campaign staffer in person or step inside a Trump campaign office."

    www.cincinnati.com

    Wanna volunteer your time to Dial for Don from home? Well, get on that horn, Trumpsters. Just know you must never again speak ill of Dear Leader or anything / one Trump.

    Under penalty of litigation

    Till the day you die.
     
  2. Gorn Captain

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    Same deal he made Ivana and Marla sign in their divorce settlements???
    :)

    BTW, as will be predictable....expect Rightwing responders to this thread to blame Trump's paranoia...


    on Hillary. (or atleast try to change the subject to her...as usual)

    :)
     
  3. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    I expect they'll be few and far between. This reflects pretty badly on their glorious leader, and what can they say? Nu uh! Did not!
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wow, scary, but he did the same to his wives didn't he.... isn't that why we do not hear from them?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sounds like a great way to get soldiers to fortify his ground game.
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    Pretty wild, huh?

    Trump is asking this of his loyalty pledged volunteers:

    In exchange for nothing, other than the sheer joy of trying to get others to join you in voting for my thin-skinned megalomaniacal self, and the many endless hours you will expend doing so -- you must agree to never, ever, ever say anything bad about any thing even remotely related to Trump.

    Not only that - if you're a business person with employees, you have to prevent any of your employees from doing so as well.

    [Yes, that's in there too:

    "No Disparagement. During the term of your service and at all times thereafter you hereby promise and agree not to demean or disparage publicly the Company, Mr. Trump, any Trump Company, any Family Member, or any Family Member Company or any asset any of the foregoing own, or product or service any of the foregoing offer, in each case by or in any of the Restricted Means and Contexts and to prevent your employees from doing so."]

    Until the day you die.

    Or, I'll sue your sorry ass.
    Signed lovingly,
    Donald J. Trump

    Sounds reasonable.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    The path to making America Great again can only be taken by those who are willing to sacrifice all that is asked of them.
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you mean like freedom of speech...
     
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    In my professional opinion, getting volunteers for -any- entity, campaign, nonprofit, etc., in the age of instant social media, trolls and hacking everywhere, to sign an NDA is sound legal advice (wherever it is permitted by prevailing labor laws). I'll go a step further and suggest that any attorney that did not at least advise their client of the pros and cons of NDAs is not giving competent counsel. I have all my clients get NDAs from employees, contractors, pretty much anyone who sees their proprietary information. Not doing it is foolhardy.

    Interestingly enough, the FBI agents investigating the Email scandal had to sign very strict NDAs, and pretty much every time sophisticated business parties engage in discussions or negotiations where information is exchanged, NDAs are signed.

    This is a silly, dead talking point of the LW. Pick something real next time. Or rather, let's hear your reasoned arguments on this issue, LW, no one in the thread has posted any so far, just "MDA AM BAD, IT AM BAD! TRMP AM BAD!" Eh, par for the course on PF.
     
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    You mean, there's a possibility that some people here may indeed have signed, since they're incapable to say anything wrong about the Trump?

    (Nah - that was me)
     
  11. Paperview

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    Ah, so Hillary should have all of her volunteers sign an agreement that anyone who gives of their time to work on the campaign can never, ever, for the rest of their lives, ever say anything bad about any member of the Clinton family, to include extended family, or any Clinton entity associated with the Clintons.

    To not do so, according Sanny here, would be foolhardy/
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    only sound legal advice if you have something to hide, like the Mcains stealing Drugs from the charity or something else like that
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    :lol:

    ...
     
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    NDAs are the "shield" for a lot of Big Name Rightwing/Republican guys.

    All Limbaugh's ex-wives have them in the divorce settlement. None of them will ever do an interview.

    Thing is...NDAs expire upon the death of the "protectee". So when Rush shuffles off this mortal coil?

    Look for a mad scramble among the three ex-Mrs. Limbaughs...and maybe the current #4....to put out a book and get it published fast.....

    if, at the least, to explain it to their family and friends. :)
     
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    How can you sign a contract like that without consideration? Makes no sense to me.
     
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    That would involve those volunteers.....thinking....wouldn't it????
     
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    Given that it is unenforceable it is utterly meaningless.

    No judge in the nation would uphold a non-compete agreement that vague and far reaching. It is impossible to enforce a non-compete on anyone who hasn't signed it. Furthermore there has to be an incentive offered in order for the non-compete to be effective. Without any incentive, and only a threat instead, the non-compete clause is null and void. And that makes the entire NDA null and void since there is no severability clause either.
     
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    It sure does. And any Clinton supporters who sign that "Sue My Treacherous Butt" document can count on getting just what they ask for. ;-)

    He should be signing up volunteers at all these rallies.
     
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    Very well stated.
     
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    It wouldn't be before a Judge. When you sign, you must agree to mandatory arbitration. Still he's holding the threat of legal action against you -- and though you may likely win the signatory could be buried in legal hassles for years.

    To want to scare volunteers into waiving their free speech rights (and even those of volunteer employees, should they have any) -- for the rest of their lives?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Consideration does not have to be money.

    But to be enforceable, consideration must be given to party B by party A.
     
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    The mandatory arbitration clause:

    Arbitration. Without limiting the Company’s or any other Trump Person’s right to commence a lawsuit in a court of competent jurisdiction in the State of New York, any dispute arising under or relating to this agreement may, at the sole discretion of each Trump Person, be submitted to binding arbitration in the State of New York pursuant to the rules for commercial arbitrations of the American Arbitration Association, and you hereby agree to and will not contest such submissions. Judgment upon the award rendered by an arbitrator may be entered in any court having jurisdiction.

    https://talk.donaldjtrump.com/User/NonDisclosureAgreement
     
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    It could also be argued by Trump's lawyers the volunteer "gained valuable training and experience, made useful contacts, etc."

    That could be "something of value."

    This is Trump, remember. He thinks his ego is "something of value."
     
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    Maybe Trump learned his lesson after Rachel Blais, a model who worked for his modelling agency, spilled the beans about the horrible working conditions the models were subjected to, not to mention Trump's bringing them over from other countries illegally. Kind of contradicts his current stance on immigration, doesn't it?

    https://www.yahoo.com/style/former-models-signed-with-trump-agency-say-they-163619758.html

    And we haven't even got into the fact that Trump hasn't paid his top campaign staff, including Manafort and Kellyanne Conway, for their services. Trump has a history, it seems, of stiffing his employees. Remember the contractors who say Trump never paid them for their work?

    Story here:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-secret-trumps-low-cost-campaign-free-labor-111732110.html
     
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    Sounds like a smart shrewd businessman covering all bases and protecting himself like he is going to protect America. Unlike career sellout career politician hillary Clinton who would sell uranium to russia for the right price.
     

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