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No you’re not, trump worked hard to make legal immigration harder also.

 

There’s no evidence that illegals are more prone to crime than legal immigrants. But I am against letting in known criminals, if that helps lol

 

You mean other than the fact that they are criminals simply by coming here illegally?

and then many are taking jobs for cash and paying no taxes.....victimless crimes right?

 

Hey don’t look at me, I’d give them amnesty.

 

You assume those illegals were going to die if they hadn't come here but what can that possibly be based on other than bleeding heart speculation? Plus even if we did grant the premise you basically just favored an assumption over a known quantity; the very real damage illegal immigration causes.

 

It’s based on what they go through to get here.
I’d prefer we just made it way easier to come in legally.

 

Ok then we're sharing the same viewpoint on that one because I too counted the deaths both from peril and homicide (along with the rapes, the human trafficking, the child abuse, the drugs, the gangs, etc etc etc etc etc) as being partially our fault for allowing illegal immigration to continue for so long. We make it possible for all of that bad stuff to happen with our swiss cheese borders, our limp dick immigration laws, and our political based enticements, its on us as much as on them.

And for the record immigrating to America isn't hard. We have the traditional route which has been good enough for hundreds of millions of people through the years, we have a VISA lottery program which is a fkin joke but its there, we have chain migration with requirements so minuscule you can basically qualify if you sat in the same chair that another migrant sat it. There is no excuse not to come to America legally.

 

The most generous avenue for immigration is family reunification (if you are fortunate to have an immediate family member who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident) — but the wait times are determined by demand, and the waits for Central American immigrants can be up to 13 years.

The next category, long-term work visa, applies to very few migrants from Central America due to its restrictions — only 74 people from El Salvador, Guatemala or Honduras combined received long-term work visas of any kind in 2017.

Diversity lottery? Well “lottery” tells the story for that one. The number of Guatemalans to win that lottery in 2017? Just 13.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.se...ally-for-many-the-doors-are-barricaded/?amp=1

It’s just not that easy

 

And it shouldn't be. Take a look around man, we're not longer the country that can afford to accept boatloads of starving unskilled illiterate migrants. That day is dead. We're not a labor economy anymore we're a data economy and that ongoing transition is already putting millions of our own people our of work. We don't have the capacity or the capability to throw open our doors to everyone and, frankly, we don't have the damn responsibility to do so either. The only thing we're responsible for is fixing the chaos of abuse and bloodshed that we've enabled for decade after decade now by exploiting the illegal immigration industry for one reason or another. We used to do it for labor, now we do it for votes, but any way you slice it its fkin wrong and it needs to stop.

 

The traditional route is broken. Why argue that it works if you actually don’t even want it to work?

 

Honestly, if it were up to me I'd cut off all immigration for anyone who cant put $10+ million dollars into a US bank when they come. I'd clamp down entirely and put 100% of our focus into our own homeless, our own jobless, our own poor. It is an absolute disgusting state of affairs that we import people whilst our own starve especially when 99.9% of those we let in will go right to the same handout line that our people are standing in. You're right, Mellow, I don't want immigration to work. Frankly, I don't even want it to exist, not right now. I don't think its necessary, like I said we're no longer a labor driven economy, and I don't think its appropriate when we have so many millions of Americans in need. But if I have to choose between supporting a system that at least attempts to validate and slow the intake, and a bout of vote-grabbing insanity that just throws open the flood gates, well **** man anyone on a rational level will pick the former.

 

For anyone not subservient to a cult of personality and enticed by its self-serving slogans, the national reprioritizations vaults America to #1 - serving all Americans.

Elections have consequences. And nowhere are the consequences of Joe Biden’s election more worrisome than in Jerusalem and Riyadh. In the past week, the President has signaled to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman—the region’s two biggest egos—that the sugar high of the Trump years is over.​

Biden isn’t interested in fundamentally altering these relationships. But he is looking to rebalance the Israeli and Saudi accounts, restore Israeli and Saudi respect for U.S. interests absent during the Trump years, and signal to Bibi and MBS—who are now wondering where they stand among Biden’s priorities—that they are no longer the center of America’s world and should think very carefully before they take actions to undermine U.S. interests. Biden isn’t looking for a fight. And whether he takes tougher actions against Israel and Saudi Arabia will depend on whether they willfully ignore or undermine U.S. interests in creating greater security and stability in the region.

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It’s still stunning to reflect on the fact that Trump’s initial stops on his first foreign trip as president in May 2017 were to Saudi Arabia and Israel. From that point on, Trump’s presidency was a gift that just kept on giving. Never in the history of U.S. relations with either country has so much been given with so little asked for in return—and with so much bad behavior swept under the rug.

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...sugar-high-for-israel-and-saudi-arabia-470911​

 

How do? Do you have any idea how many people immigrate here legally per year?

 

Working for some doesn’t meant it isn’t broken

 

Its right around 1 million a year.... How is that "broken" and how is that "some"?

 

I posted how it’s broken.

 

In fairness, and in deference to native Americans, such an isolationist policy must be retroactive, of course, and apply to all immigrants, at least since the nation's founding.

Nothing of value can ever be contributed by the interlopers - or all their anchor babies with their industriousness, enterprise, and talent.

"I got mine, so screw everyone who attempts to duplicate the opportunistic relocation of my forebears who were resented, repressed, and discriminated against as well!"

Everybody, go away!

 

what? ... I'v e traveled all over the world with my kids and we've never needed anything other than our passports ...

I hope your tennis game is better than your knowledge of legal terms ...

 

The problem is when kids are only travelling with one parent. Parents abducting their own kids, and then fleeing to foreign countries, is apparently all the rage these days, and it often leads to messy bureaucratic nightmares, and international legal hassles. Various countries have gotten so tired of dealing with such messes, they require signed affidavits when a parent is traveling with a child without the other parent present, and affidavits are required, and they have to be checked, and notarized, and scrutinized...

South Africa is one of those countries, and the South African bureaucrats are not exactly known for their efficiency.

My wife and I were in a situation were we travelled to South Africa separately, and it led to all sorts of paperwork, and delays, and hassles.

It would've been much easier if we had just hopped over the Tijuana border instead.

And it's probably even easier now that Team Biden has opened the gates, rolled out the red carpet, and rung the dinner bell.

 

Do I recall you saying that when Trump was President? I don't think so. And some don't else why is Biden putting them in horrible cages and violating their civil rights. Who pays for the DNA test, what if the test shows the adult is not the parent.

BTW the kit at Walgreens cost $28 and then
"Simply buy this kit, use the painless cheek swabs, and send in samples with the $139 lab fee. You'll get results online just 2 days after all samples arrive at the lab."

So where do we keep the kids during the time it takes to get do the test, mail it in and then the 2 days and WHO PAYS for it. Why should American taxpayers pay for it?

And of course what about the kids arriving WITHOUT an adult?

 

Saying what when trump was president? They were separating everyone.

 

An immigrant who has entered a country in an unauthorized manner (often as a migrant worker) and has no documentation

https://www.wordnik.com/words/undocumented immigrant

https://definitions.uslegal.com/u/undocumented-immigrant/

 

And you would be literally overwhelmed to the point you would change your policy's..

 

Not they weren't only those who could not prove they were the parents or legal guardian. Don't you think we should or just any adult with children just allowed to pass through? And the there were the children showing up on their own.

 

That's because very few if any of them had legit documentation, I don't get why you don't understand that? It read like you are OK with some Man or Women being awarded a child simply because of their word..

Makes little sense, and sounds dangerous for the child!!!