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    War!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Democrat Politicians use to always be about peace, and love, supposedly.

    Wars are evil, and stupid, and are started by corrupt people with power, and money.

    Very Very materialistic people, start Wars.

    In the Bible, it says to "Be Content". Now the opposite of that is materialism.
    The most materialistic places in America, are Liberal Democrat Ran Cities, and States.
    Such as Chicago, New York, California.

    So, in conclusion, ultimately, Liberal Democrat American Politicians ways of thinking, is the type of thinking that starts Wars in general. Yes, both parties are corrupt, and materialistic, but the mentality of a Conservative Republican, is far less corrupt, of that of a Left wing Socialist. Even though, they Psychologically Project that it isn't.

    Just like The King Of Socialism Bernie Sanders. Who loves his capitalism, and his money, and his millions of dollars. Why doesn't Bernie Sanders share all or most of his wealth, like the Socialistic ways, he supposedly believes in? it's because he's just another fake materialistic Democrat Politician!

    If you want to see, what the Democrat Party truly is, simply look up Bernie Sanders policies!!!!!!!!!!! and Socialism, and Communism. Owe look, a red Flag. Red flag politics include Anarchism. Do you think that most Americans want Anarchy?

    Red Flag Politics- "In politics, a red flag is predominantly a symbol of socialism, communism, Marxism, trade unions, left-wing politics, and historically of anarchism. It has been associated with left-wing politics since the French Revolution (1789–1799)."

    Cold war, Russia, Hillary Clinton, China, Traitor American Democrat Politicians.


    Socialism - Wikipedia

    Red flag (politics) - Wikipedia

    Communism - Wikipedia

    China - Wikipedia
     
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    Joe Biden, and the American Democrat Politicians, with Russia! Russia! Russia!
    Hillary Clinton god caught colluding with Russia

    Psychological Projection, anyone?
     
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    Well, it's totally true there is a WHOLE LOT of psychological projection on the Progression Left, BUT, this is one particular area where this does not clearly apply.

    Conservatives and those on the Right just have an attitude to be likely to jump into a war. It's always been that way. This is not always a bad thing, it can be a good thing in some situations.

    But, making it more complicated, this conflict with Russia is bizarre. It's almost like the Left, or maybe we should say a faction of those who side with Progressives, are more gung ho about it than conservatives. Is it because, behind the scenes, they view Russia as "The Right" (their worldwide enemy)? It was kind of the same thing in Bosnia with the war against Serbia. Not many Americans remember that, 1992 to 1995.

    And more bizarre (maybe another long discussion for another thread), every member on this forum who wanted to see Julian Assange hanged was a Trump-hater. Usually Assange haters were typically associated with Pro-War, and Trump-haters are associated with the Progressive Left. Interesting isn't it?

    Nevertheless, back to what we were talking about at that beginning, I think you have a valid point about materialism and war. There may be a connection.

    Going back to Karl Marx, dialectical materialism was at the center of his theory.
     
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    People dying is a good thing?
     
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    So, Hillary Clinton colluding with the Russians, and having to delete her hardrives, and bleach and acid them, and shred official documents, is Democrat Politicians hating Russia?

    Sounds like a pretty clear case of Psychological Projection, to me! They were doing something illegal with russia, and got caught, and so they decided to say that trump and the Republican Party is nothing but for Russia Russia Russia! and Putin spies. lol.

    When in actuality, they're the traitors, and did illegal things with Russia.
     
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    Politicians start wars, not people. If politicians had to fight the wars they start we’d have a lot less wars and a lot more peace..
     
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    There is a double standard legality wise in America, when it comes to Politicians especially.

    If the Democrat Politicians get caught doing something illegal, because they own most of the media in America, they can simply brainwash people into thinking that it was absolutely nothing, and then they simply sweet it under the rug, and move on, and act like nothing happened!

    If Republicans were actually colluding with Russia, there would be many Republican Politicians fired, and in jail, but since the Democrat Politicians, nothing will happen to them. That is the double standard. They get away with almost anything, and it's sick!
     
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    They only fan the flames of Anarchism until they have cemented control. After that, it looks like Communist China. At that time they will stamp any of that Anarchism out with unmerciful force. Also notice (in China and the former Soviet Union) how patriotic they drive the society to be after their own Party takes complete control. But before then, everything about the nation, culture and history were "evil". The Soviets even had to change the name of their police because all their socialist propaganda from before had demonized the police so much. Such an irony that "the instrument of capitalist oppression" just became something even more oppressive.
     
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    politicians are people,

    but I do agree with you, that if politicians had to fight, there would be a lot less wars.
    They're cowards, and think that they're better than the rest of us though, so that would never happen.
     
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    I'd say that the riots, that the liberal fake news called "Peaceful protests", from the far left in America, were a representation of what Anarchy sorta looks like.

    Burning buildings, killing people, killing cops, crime, stealing, breaking into stores. Anarchy! It's what the Democrat Politicians want for America!!!

    A Vote For Democrat Politicians in America, is a Vote For Anarchy!!!
     
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    I think you're missing my larger point.
     
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    The guy who painted Obama's famous color picture, was a devowed Socialist. Ironic.
     
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    no. I understand possibly, that you're saying war is ok, if it's for a good cause, but I don't agree with that.

    There shouldn't be any wars at all, we should be able to have things like equality, without wars.

    We should be able to talk about things, like civilized people, but the politicians don't. Greed gets to them, and then they send the rest of us to war, so they can line their pockets.
     
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    That was a very small claim within the wider theme of what I was talking about.

    You can disagree with that and still agree with everything else in my post.
     
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    You are correct, both in logic and in how important it is.
     
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    I was around during the Vietnam War. That war was waged by a Democratic Party president, Lyndon B Johnson.

    He talked about 'stepping up the war in Vietnam'.

    That was it. Killing more people was just 'stepping up the war'.

    To this day hardly any people understand the Vietnam War, even though it was in living memory.

    Nor does anyone care it seems.

    I've asked a lot of people at random in real life a simple question of how many people were killed in that war, and nobody has ever come anywhere near the correct figure.

    All have been out by a gigantic amount.

    Here on PF one person just told me I'd got the math wrong.

    Nobody cares. Nobody wants to know.
     
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    One part of the problem with Americans and foreign policy is we are lying about who we are.

    Nobody wants to know.
     
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    We don't live in the world of "should" we live in the world of "is".
     
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    Put the booze away and go to bed.

    Anti-drug huh? You know booze is a drug too!
     
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    Anyone feel sorry for the anarchists in the Spanish civil war? Eventually, the communists took over and slaughtered them. After which Franco’s fascist slaughtered the communists. It’s how this dream of utopia building always ends.
     
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    do you know how many died in that war? i counted a lot of those bodies, some of them several times.
     
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    so you are justifying war.
     
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    Democrat Politicians are trying to destroy real true history.

    Which disrespects every person, who has ever fought in a war.

    Every Veteran, it disrespects, and dishonors.
     
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    I know, right? We shouldn't have wars, and I use to think that that's what the Democrat Party really wanted, was peace. But now I can see, that they're full of crap, and never wanted peace at all. The whole peace and love movement, was all fake.

    "it depends on what the meaning of is, is?" lol.

    Is it going to stop the Democrat Politicians, that they're destroying the morality within America, and traitors to this Country? No.

    Hey! You're right! Democrat Politicians are is's!!! lol, and unfortunately, that is the World that we live in today! lol
     
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    So many liberals do drugs. It helps them lose brain cells. Unfortunately, it kills a lot of people as well.
    I'm sure that Democrat Politicians could care less though.

    Liberal Socialist Democrat(LSD) Politicians. Because you'd have to be either really stupid, or on drugs, to vote for a Democrat Politician.
     

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