Warmest Oceans on Record Could Set Off a Year of Extreme Weather

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  1. Jkca1

    Jkca1 Active Member

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    Nothing to worry about if you are a climate denier. For those of you that care, here is the latest bad news. Climate change will eventually make the pandemic look like a walk in the park;

    "The world’s seas are simmering, with record high temperatures spurring worry among forecasters that the global warming effect may generate a chaotic year of extreme weather ahead.

    Our planet has already experienced its hottest January and second-steamiest February in recorded history, while March 2020 was almost 2 degrees Centigrade warmer than the average between 1981 and 2010. What is worrisome is the ocean surface temperatures around the world.

    Parts of the Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian Oceans all hit the record books for warmth last month, according to NOAA's U.S. National Centers for Environmental Information. Parts of the tropical Atlantic Ocean, central Indian Ocean, and parts of the northern and southwestern Pacific Ocean had temperatures that were 1.5°C (2.7°F) above average or higher. This could have far-reaching implications looking ahead"

    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/...-extreme-weather/article/570427#ixzz6JzTImMpt
     
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    High temps are supposed to help suppress the virus.
     
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    BasicHumanUnit2 Well-Known Member

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    No one denies there is a climate, or that it "changes". No one denies it gets warmer and colder naturally.
    What is denied is the fake news designed to create hysteria.....same with COVID-19. The actual death toll is closer to 10,000 if you exclude all the deaths from other causes conveniently bundled.

    The Earth has undergone climate changes (including hotter and colder periods) long before man arrived. Glaciers have melted and reformed. Seas have risen and subsided. All part of NATURAL cycles.

    There is absolutely ZERO evidence that CO2 is causing any significant change to the Earth's climate and ZERO evidence it is anything but natural.

    Please stop the fear mongering.
     
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    What is the temperature supposed to be?
     
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    On Wednesday, this week, Miami, Florida reached 93 degrees Fahrenheit, a record in itself that was 10 degrees above normal.

    I found this gem interesting...

    Remember if you mention record snow your an idiot because you know weather isnt climate.. But you can use ONE DAY in ONE City as proof of something.

    Then things like this..

    Averaged as a whole, the global land and ocean surface temperature for March 2020 was 1.16°C (2.09°F) above the 20th century average of 12.7°C (54.9°F) and the second highest in the 141-year record. Only March 2016 was warmer at 1.31°C (2.36°F). The 10 warmest Marches have all occurred since 1990, with Marches of 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020 having a global land and ocean surface temperature departure from average above 1.0°C (1.8°F). The March 2020 global land and ocean surface temperature departure tied with February 2020 and December 2015 as the third highest monthly temperature departure from average in the 1,683-month record. Only February and March 2016, when a strong El Niño was present in the tropical Pacific Ocean, had higher temperature departures.


    What was the technology used to determine global land and see temps back in 1880?

    Or heck 1821?

    According to European information compiled by the Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute, Moscow (Russia's capital) had its second warmest March since records began in 1821, while Estonia had a top five warm March on record.
     
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    Naturally, you, an anonymous internet poster is more qualified than the entire medical and scientific community regarding climate science and infectious diseases lol.
     
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    I worry what this might mean for hurricane season and COVID-19. Emergency responses are going to be harder to do now that we have to factor in a disease that could be spreading rampant as time goes on.
     
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    Yes we hear that every year...........................:yawn:
     
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    I stopped reading at "simmering" since I'm going to outright state clearly that we are NOT just below boiling, or approx 200+ degrees, thats very hot!

    exceptions of course to any spot near an active volcano spilling Lava into the ocean.

    I guess that makes me a denier.
     
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    Doom and gloom gets clicks and therefore pays the bills. You don't get anywhere with the science media cabal if you're a climate denier.
     
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    Be "skeptical" when they use "on record" when the "record" goes back to such a small sample size considering how old this planet is.
     
  12. BasicHumanUnit2

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    Don't hate me because I researched and know what I'm talking about.
    The information is readily available for anyone (including you) if you dare to go look for yourself rather than just take CNN and MSNBC's word for it.

    Now PLEASE stop with the fear mongering!

    fear·mon·ger·ing
    /ˈfirˌməNGəriNG/
    noun
    noun: fear-mongering
    1. the action of deliberately arousing public fear or alarm about a particular issue.
      "his campaign for re-election was based on fearmongering and deception"
     
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    Let's explore this claim that the death count is 1/4 of the official number. I assume you think this is true in other hard-hit countries as well? UK? France, Spain, Italy?
     
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    Don't let scientific facts get in your way

    Anyone with even the slightest background in this field knows
    a) during previous known periods of global cooling the Arctic has in fact warmed, and
    b) low solar activity causes the jet stream to shift to a more meridional flow which, in the NH, sinks cold Arctic air south and pulls warm Tropical air north.

    History is repeating, UN and IPCC.


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    We get it. You think you know more and are more qualified than the entire medical and scientific community, lol.
     
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    So, rather than discuss, you continue this personal attack simply because I present evidence and links, while you present.....nothing but nonsense.

    We get it ;)
     
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    No, he's making a probabilistic argument:

    The probability that some random internet message boarder is right, and the scientific community is wrong, is so infinitesimal, it's not even worth considering. You're last name's not Pasteur is it? Didn't think so.
     
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    I guess the chinavirus isn't giving the government the amount of control over people and wealth redistribution that had hoped for, plus they can't tax it. So the next best thing is to go back to old faithful, global warming.
     
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    See post #15

    You're welcome.
     
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    Pointing out you are not as qualified as the entire scientific and medical community is not a personal attack.
     
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    You're kidding, right? This is the most "government control" I've ever seen in my lifetime. Yours too, I'm sure. I can't work, I can't go to a restaurant, I can't hang out with more than 10 people, etc.

    And the amount of money we're spending is staggering. Since it's all deficit spending, it's being "redistributed" from future generations to us.
     
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    huh?

    Ok,..let's assume I'm wrong here and you are correct....
    Please show me where I made the mistake of claiming to be as qualified as the entire scientific and medical community.

    You seem to be fumbling and I honestly don't know where you're getting this from.
    If I did indeed imply such a thing then I apologize.....but I don't think I did.

    Again, just show me where I did such a thing. I'm not too proud to admit I'm wrong (if that's the case)

    My honest opinion is that you are fishing but don't have a good pole or a hook.

    Your move.
     
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    The chinavirus will eventually go away before the left can figure out how to tax it. With global warming, no matter what the temperature is, no matter what the weather is doing, the left will find a way to say we're all going to die from it and only continued misery and taxes will save us.
     
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    The environment is a issue for people not in the middle of a pandemic.. lots of people i am sure would love to be able to afford to care ...
     
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