Warren urges House to begin impeachment proceedings on heels of Mueller report

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  1. perotista

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    Warren is just playing to her base of support here. She wants to be out front in this for the upcoming Democratic primary campaign. She wants and needs the radical left's support which at the moment Sanders is her main opponent.

    Only Democrats are in favor of impeachment, nationwide it is 36% in favor, 59% against. Most dye in the wool Democrats. Question 5.

    http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/03/20/rel4c.-.trump.and.russia.pdf

    Anyone with a bit of political common sense knows even if the House would draw up the articles of impeachment, pass them and go on to a trial in the senate. It would be a total waste of time, energy and money on a very partisan political ploy. The support isn't there among the whole of America. Just Democrats and Democrats only. When it comes to politics, there is very little common sense and even facing reality.

    But calling for impeachment I have no doubt goes over huge with the Democratic base, even if it doesn't for anyone else. This could help her in the primaries, hurt her if she gets the nomination in the general. Crunching the current numbers, I don't think she could win the independent vote in the general election. Independents have a very negative view of Warren. But that means nothing in the Democratic Primaries, but could mean everything in the General election as Hillary Clinton Proved.
     
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  2. HereWeGoAgain

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    There are plenty of legitimate reasons to impeach trump. But he is a wounded mad dog and it is best to just run him to death.
     
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    LOL! No kidding.
     
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    of course she is...she can't beat Trump the FAIR way
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What'd yea say, is Trump now at about 98.98% unelectable? 98.99%? :hiding:
     
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    This is what happens when they're allowed to leave the reservation.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not my America, my America is winning plenty.
     
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    All of whom were convicted and imprisoned on process crimes or committed crimes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before going to work for Trump and none of whom were convicted of Collusion with the Russians FOR Trump.
     
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    We were declining in education under Obama the past decade...

    Did you complain then?

    If you did, then Obama failed you and theres nowhere to go but up so sit back and relax.
     
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    Back atcha...I urge YOU to educate yourself.

    Just because Trump became frustrated and wanted to end a ridiculous COUP created and predicated upon lies in an attempt to take him down after months or years of constant endless harrassment, no matter how hard liberals try to spin this, it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment.

    ANYONE would have gone off the rails in the same situation. Half of America was screaming he should end it just a few months in so he could get to working fully at AMERICA'S business. For one in case you haven't noticed, we have a crisis/invasion at our southern border needing serious attention which the democrats who NEVER get anything constructive done, to no surprise are fighting.

    Liberalism/socialism/communism all of which are the same mindset, is a cancer growing not only in America but all around the world which if left unchecked, will destroy everything freedom lovers hold dear.
     
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    The Bible tells me you better support Trump.
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
     
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  12. Egoboy

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    I've read probably 60% of the Mueller report... can you say the same?

    Simple question - Do you believe Trump ordered/asked McGahn to fire/remove/let go Mueller on June 17th, 2017?

    If Yes, what reason(s) do you believe would be valid for that removal?

    From what I've read so far, this so exceeds the basic definition of high crimes and misdemeanors that it's sort of sad we had to wait for the full report, since so much of this was in the public domain before the report.
     
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    "Hope and Change!" bellowed Barack Obama and the blatantly leftist-allied Mainstream Media creamed their panties over it -- and that was just the beta-males of the media. Meaningless "Hope and Change!", which can mean ANYTHING or nothing at all as a slogan makes soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much more sense than Make America Great Again . . . yep.
     
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    How about knowing it was false from the onset and that it was manufactured by a coup who lied to get FISA warrants? And after a year or more of relentless tongue lashing by the democratic party and their main stream media minions calling Trump a traitor which is punishable by death, he'd had enough? I mean who wouldn't want it shut down? Hell, half the country was calling for the same long before Trump tried to act on it.
     
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    Good news for Trump... I now do not believe Section I of the OOJ Volume (Trump orders McGahn to deny that Trump tried to fire Mueller).

    Apparently, Trump just wanted McGahn to submit a false statement to the press about that episode, not to the Special Counsel's office.

    Lying to the press is certainly encouraged in Trump world and probably does not rise to the level of impeachable OOJ.

    I do think it's absolutely hilarious that McGahn (the WH lawyer) had to go through HIS personal lawyer to talk to Trump's lawyer (Rudy or Sekulow I assume) about this...

    1 down, 9 to go...
     
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    I'm sorry, was that a Yes or a No?? I ask again

    Do you believe Trump ordered/asked McGahn to fire/remove/let go Mueller on June 17th, 2017?

    Wanting it shut down and shutting it down with no valid legal reason are 2 different things... Mueller had only been on the job for 1 month when Trump freaked out over the report that Mueller was now looking at OOJ, in addition to the Russia stuff.

    I DO recommend you read the report instead of whining the party line...
     
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  17. Pollycy

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    No, no, Stonewall -- go back up to the 100,000-foot level and NEVER forget, no matter what varieties of political fare that Democrats have cooked up, going back as far as FDR, the BEDROCK reason that a phenomenon like the Democrat Party can even exist, is because of the "carrot-and-stick" mechanism of 'FREE STUFF' FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

    When you mash all the air bubbles out of everything else they say, offer, propose, or promise, the lure of 'FREE STUFF' is always the central feature and appeal. It towers above everything else; it hovers in the background; it is the very flesh and blood of everything they are -- no matter whatever else they may say. It is the reciprocal-action machine that keeps them in power.

    You can present piles of hard, cold evidence that they distort, pervert, manipulate, and lie about everything they oppose, and yet they STILL remain a powerful, potent force -- because of the seductive lure of 'FREE STUFF'.

    The country can be invaded, subverted, literally 'stabbed in the back', despoiled, and left bankrupt -- as long as a growing class of parasites gets 'FREE STUFF', along with the promise of more of it, they'll vote Democrat every time! Nothing else really matters!

    "Know your enemy...."
     
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    Obviously Trump was miffed and wanted to be rid of Mueller through proper channels for failure to carry out his edict as per the guidelines set forth. McGahn told him there were no grounds at the time to do so. So Trump simmered but refused to act. At any time, he could have personally fired Mueller, but did not do so because of the optics. Sorry but that doesn't fit under the definition of obstruction. In fact, it shows great restraint.
     
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    I guess I missed that detailed study of the legalities of OOJ because somebody is "miffed"....
     
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    Every time I get an anburd lie sent to me that is easily fact checked it is from an elderly relative or employee, maybe it’s just me.
     
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    How is ordering McGahn to do what you claim Trump could, but didn't, do confirming Trump "refused to act"

    I honestly don't know how a conversation is possible between us when simple sentences cannot be agreed on...
     
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    Incredibly, whenever a leftist chirps anything about Trump it's garnished with a Incredibly.

     
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    You forgot to embellish with Incredibly, you will never get the leftist attention with out it :)
     
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    Trump didn't need a middleman to shitcan Mueller. How much simpler can I put this? As Commander in Chief he can fire anyone in the Executive branch at will...........for any or no reason. He did not do so.
     
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