Was the January 6 riot/insurrection defensible?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Le Chef, Oct 16, 2022.

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Do you condemn, unequivocally, the January 6 riot inside the Capitol?

  1. Yes, with no reservation whatsoever

    43 vote(s)
    72.9%
  2. No, because the rioters were heroically trying to stop the steal

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  3. No, because as misguided as they were, their response was understandable

    4 vote(s)
    6.8%
  4. Riot? What riot?

    10 vote(s)
    16.9%
  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    I think you have to be armed to have an armed insurrection
     
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    AARguy Banned

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    There are libs yet unborn that will still be trying to convict Trump of SOMETHING. Its a cult now.
     
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  3. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Right on. "We don't need no stinkin' trials."
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Dems hate trials. That's why they invented lynchings in the Old South.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    They should get full due process and THEN get cells next to the Man Of Bronze
    Though I can't help but think that when crimes are this well known it begs for summary justice.
     
  6. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    But you have already pronounced sentence.

    "First the sentence, then the show trial."

    That's a paraphrase from Alice in Wonderland, if memory serves.
     
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    That's the way the lib mind works. Find them guilty then have a trial. The same with investigations where they first reach a conclusion and THEN gather data to prove it.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Alice was always my favorite girl, so much fun at the Tea Parties.
     
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    AARguy Banned

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    Are you a MEMBER of the TEA PARTY?
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is thing about Left Wingers, something they don't like and/or it hurts their feelings, is a guilty crime and you're locked up without a trial. And in the same breath, they claim democracy is under threat.

    You literally can't make this stuff up. Are America's Democrats fascists? I believe so because they display those tendancies.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You're totally right, supporting a chief executive who wants to overthrow the government isn't a real problem, what's the matter with that? It's not like they did something really bad, like helping a woman get an abortion
     
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    The point is you never knew what I was responding to, made some assumptions anyway, and when I pointed you to the actual posts that were being responded to so you could understand the context, you farted it off and are now onto a crazed rant about "handlers" and "leftist tools."

    This shouldn't have been difficult but you've chosen, for some reason, to make it so.
     
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    Which is why I directed you to those posts. But I can only lead an officer to information, I can't make him read or think.
     
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    Most riots bring some degree of violence. We had a whole Summer of that to demonstrate how far the violence would go.

    I think the main reason we can never find middle ground is that neither side really hears the bedrock issues that the other side are upset about. Can't hear it over the din of the riots. We take issue with the actions and don't care about the cause. That and the fact that our two political parties and our media have become professional agitators. We throw quotes and papers by professionals we agree with and seldom have an original thought. If it was a term paper and a requirement was put it in your own words most of us would fail due to plagiarism.
     
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    "An Officer"? What do we have here? Another angry Enlisted guy that got a bad discharge so hates Officers?
     
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    Lol! You're just going to let me get my entertainment dollar out of this place huh?
     
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    And that answers the question... how?
     
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    Hmm.. So, I think you missed the point. But who cares, you got to bash "orange man bad" yet again, without actually trying to hard. Just a question. When y'all democrats were running around burning cities down, where were you again? I recall you supporting that. Endlessly writing justification after justification about how "liberty" allows folks to "protest" even though those BLM/ANTIFA riots weren't protests as much as they were looting and arson sprees, but who cares, here you are, breathlessly demanding that anyone who criticizes your dear leaders of the democratic party are sent with all the pomp you can muster to the gulags.

    This is what third world dictators do, and it seems you find it fun. right?

    How about this, some folks, looks like informants for the FBI, are on video slathering and attempting to whip the crowd up. Those are the folks remarkably absent from the charging sheets in any jurisdiction. So, are you willing to admit that folks like Ray Epps are the true eager beavers here, and likely the cause of any misconduct that day? Perhaps, and yet instead of actually wanting to get around to figuring out who actually drove the limited violence there that day, all we here are endless, "end of the world" bs from democrats and folks like you.

    Sorry, this isn't worth the anxiety you've attempted to induce here. Want something to spas out about? Try ending the FBI/Big tech censorship train. On that at least we could agree..
     
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    I address the documented reality, irrefutable evidence, and ongoing adjudications.

    Weird worships' dogma is that their object of veneration is above the law, apparently. They're wrong.

    Your fake accusation does not serve as the diversion you desperately seek.

    I never have endorsed mob violence anywhere, and am unaware of any politically partisan mobs being told to "fight like hell" against outnumbered police anywhere else, nor of such mobs flailing banners for any other politician. If you wish to pretend otherwise, cite examples.

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    Thank you for reminding me of the legend of Whispering Ray, the Man who Controls Weak Minds. That one was a hoot!

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    Why did none 0f the thousand+ Trump goons who were identified, apprehended, and prosecuted offer the defense of having been coerced by the persuasive Mr Epps?

    Did even one mention the Legend?
     
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    Yet I have no problem criticizing this violence. Can you do so, without equivocation like the above?
     
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    I can't accept the way it is branded. The left doesn't discuss what happened, they label it on their terms and expect people with a different view to agree with that version. Had we not had that Summer of Love and seen the way the Democrat power structure used it I think I would be ready to condemn it for what it was.
     
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    Tasering someone until they go into cardiac arrest is violence. Breaking into a building is violence. Calling for the VP to be hanged is, in the very least, calling for violence. Beating people is violence. All of these things happened. If you can't come to accept that reality, you need to do some soul searching.
     
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    All those things were violence all Summer long and I think that tazer story is BS that replaced the hit in the head with a fire extinguisher story when it was disproved. The only one who got shot was an unarmed woman and she put herself in position for it.

    I have no problem with security using whatever means necessary to stop a riot Jan.6 or any of the preceding violent demonstrations all summer long. We didn't see Security shooting any of those folks and we didn't see stories condemning them. They were useful and so is Jan 6.
     
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    And off topic and no one here is defending it. In fact, I've criticized Antifa for their violence as well. The RW thugs that you are defending are no better than those fascists.

    Cute excuse. But it's no different from some lefty fanatic plugging their ears and screaming "I refuse to believe that the summer you are talking about ever happened!

    I'm glad we agree that shot was justified. Thought that was not the only death that day and it was far from the only injury. How many people were killed during the summer you are talking about, by the way? Way to shift the goalposts.

    See above.
     

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