Was the Trump White House Selling Pardons?

I would say it's a good possibility the Trump White House sold pardons?!! Trump abused the power of the pardon while in office too?!! The power of the pardon, needs a lot more oversight or just end this presidential power?!!

Yesterday’s New York Times has a fascinating article about Trump pardoning a major drug dealer and violent loan shark; it’s titled “A Troubling Trump Pardon and a Link to the Kushners.”

Like with so much reporting on Trump and his possible criminal activity while in the White House, it somehow manages to miss a possible larger picture, in this case the multiple allegations that Trump and Giuliani were selling pardons for $2 million a pop.

Although the allegations are well documented, including under oath in a lawsuit, there’s not a single mention of it in the Times article.

The reporters do, however, an excellent job of laying out a case for Jonathan Braun not being pardoned. First, he was a convicted major drug dealer who was less than 2 years into a 10 year prison term. Second, he was also allegedly running a mafia-like illegal loan shark operation, using threats of violence to make sure people paid up. As the Times notes:

“A Staten Islander with a history of violent threats, Mr. Braun had told a rabbi who owed him money: ‘I am going to make you bleed.’”

Third, he was apparently more than willing to use his great wealth to both get out of prison and escape the loan shark charges that the DOJ was preparing against him. Again, from the Times:

“Mr. Braun’s family had told confidants they were willing to spend millions of dollars to get him out of prison.”

In a lawsuit filed earlier this year by Noelle Dunphy, a former employee of Rudy Giuliani, she asserts under oath that Giuliani was offering people pardons for $2 million, the money to be split 50/50 between him and Trump. As the lawsuit itself claims:

“[Giuliani] asked Ms. Dunphy if she knew anyone in need of a pardon, telling her that he was selling pardons for $2 million, which he and President Trump would split.”

The suit further alleges Giuliani told Dunphy that she should avoid the normal channels for handling pardons, including the Office of the Pardon Attorney (yes, there is such a job in the White House), “because those communications would otherwise be subject to Freedom of Information Act requests.”

But Dunphy wasn’t the only one blowing the whistle that Trump was hustling pardons out of the White House for $2 million a pop. As Phillip Bump wrote for The Washington Post earlier this year:

“The allegation that Giuliani was offering pardons for $2 million has been made before. In January 2021, shortly before Trump left office, the New York Times reported that former CIA officer John Kiriakou had been ‘told that Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani could help him secure a pardon for $2 million.’ Kiriakou rejected the request, but an associate worried about the legality of such an offer tipped off the FBI. Kiriakou was not granted a pardon.”

When the Times reported on the pay-for-pardons scheme, Congressman Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL) wrote to Trump’s acting Attorney General, Jeffrey Rosen, about his concern of criminal behavior in the White House:

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/...elling-pardons

 

Great thread SMK.

I had read that Giuliani got Bernie Kerik a pardon right under the wire.
It was claimed to be Trump's last pardon, most likely a freebie cause Kerik certainly doesn't have that kind of money and not only is Giuliani known to be a cheap bastard he probably turned in part of his "insurance policy" he had on Trump.

 

More leftist conspiracy theory. No shortage of them around lol.

 

Lots to be said about most of Trump's pardons.


The worst of Trump's pardons (opinion)

CNN.com
https://www.cnn.com › 2021/01/20 › opinions › trump-...

Jan 20, 2021 — The worst of Trump's pardons · Steve Bannon. · Elliott Broidy. · Kwame Kilpatrick. · Paul Erickson. · Gary (New Mexico): Can the Senate hold an ...


The craven corruption of Trump's pardons

USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com › opinion › 2020/12/23 › t...

Dec 23, 2020 — On Tuesday, Trump pardoned two more people ... This was the president rewarding allies, and if that meant excusing the worst forms of corruption, ...

 

There ya go, projecting again.

 

Its the reality.

 

I know. To quote someone we all know and despise, "where's the money?"

 

And even if it was proven in court you’d say it’s a vast plot against him. It’s literally impossible to prove anything bad about trump to righties.

 

Would you care even if it was proven true?

 

Who knows.

But its clear the left, as usual, will believe its true no matter the lack of evidence.

 

Sure... it would confirm their belief that Trump is a brilliant businessman....

 

As if past Presidents didn't pardon people because they were money men for their parties. Marc Rich's wife gave the Clinton Library $450K and suddenly Marc gets himself a pardon. Payola is not new to politics.

 

Only if they used subjectively interpreted laws and he said she said testimony.

But regardless, we know the left believes this occurred despite the lack of evidence. And likely always will.

 

I don’t know if it did. I do know nobody who supports him would believe it no matter what evidence came out.

 

You might want to ask Trump. That shyster might have pocketed it.

 

I'm proud of ya being able to admit the reality of you always projecting.
hehehe

 

Indeed. They beleive everything that T says. evidence , be damned.

 

Who would you believe?? Evidence or Trump's denials? Or would you simply dismiss any evidence as leftist propaganda or projection ....

 

Depends on what the evidence is.

 

If thats the incorrect conclusion you picked up thats fine.

 

Not true, but it is clear the keft will continue to believe it, like most of their conspiracies despite evidence.

 

LOLOLOL!!! OFLMAO!!!

Libs will accuse Trump of ANYTHING... EVERYTHING... with no proof (and notice not a CONVICTION IN SIGHT!)... just to swing the election, illegally, against him!!

 

I’m with you on this one.

To me, this is like the “Joe Biden is corrupt” narrative.

It looks like some people were hoping to buy pardons. That doesn’t mean Trump sold pardons or accepted the offers to buy pardons. Show me money flowing to Trump from someone who was pardoned. Then I’ll believe this.

Same as Joe Biden. Show me money flowing to him. People may have been trying to buy influence. Doesn’t mean he was aware of what his son was doing or that he sold any influence.

 

I have seen no irrefutable evidence that he has. But so what? Even if he did he is too powerful, too popular and too well insulated from accountability. Minor judicial slaps on the hand aside he is the real Teflon Don! Lady Justice is blind? Anyone still believe that crap?

 

This is an extremely intelligent quote. This is exactly why I come on this forum. One side or the other doesn’t matter as long as it’s a civil discussion. Well said bx4!!