Washington Examiner Judge strips Chicago mother of parental rights for not being vaccinated

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LINK - YAHOO NEWS

    A Chicago mother is appealing a court order that revoked her parental visiting rights because she declined to be vaccinated against the coronavirus.

    When Rebecca Firlit and her ex-husband of seven years participated in a child support hearing via video call on Aug. 10 for the purpose of determining the terms of shared custody of their 11-year-old son, Cook County Judge James Shapiro inquired about Firlit's vaccination status. After Firlit told the judge she did not receive the vaccine because of adverse reactions she has had to other vaccines, he ordered her to be stripped of her parental right to visit her son until she has been vaccinated.

    "I think that it’s wrong. I think that it’s dividing families. And I think it’s not in my son's best interest to be away from his mother," Firlit told local Fox-affiliate WFLD.

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    We warned everyone that the Authoritarian Leftists would run down this slippery slope. It was called a "Conspiracy Theory", but here we are in their Clown World.

    A woman with vaccine reactions made a personal decision and an Authoritarian Judge took away her rights to be a parent to her child. Leftists don't want to rule our worlds.

    Government was never supposed to be in Americans' lives like this...ever.
     
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    This story just makes me angry. That Judge should be fired for such BS.

    The left has become a dictatorship. It's thier way or the highway.

    Screw that BS.
     
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  3. Darth Gravus

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    This is a ****ed up ruling, family court judges have far too much power. The whole system needs to be overhauled.
     
  4. MJ Davies

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    Yep. I lost my parental rights for less than that. It's really messed up and there is nowhere to turn for help.
     
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    A good friend of mine from the Marines lost his rights for more than a year due to the "sexist" nature of the things he posted on FB.

    Way too much power and there is no where to turn to
     
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    family court judges have far too much power.
    Agree completely.
     
  7. Hoosier8

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    We are not conspiracy theorists, we are just right the first time.
     
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    I don’t see how you equate the actions of one judge to all “leftists” but ok… I doubt you will find many in agreement.

    Do you know if this is the first time a judge has ruled that a vaccine or medical decision must be taken to have visitation rights?
     
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    What they call "Conspiracy Theory", we call the news in six months.

    They will try to exclude those without a vaccine from everything they possible can. It doesn't matter that they have antibodies, or medical reasons, or religious reasons... you must submit to the rule of the Authoritarian Leftist or you are punished.
     
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    It's not. There is a thread around here somewhere about a dad that lost his visitation for the same reason.

    This case is from 2015.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...making-authority-over-childrens-medical-care/
     
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  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How do you feel about an anorexic parent who starves her child while punishing her for being fat even though she's actually on the slim side of heathy?
     
  12. HB Surfer

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    Leftists set this up with their push to exclude the un-vaccinated from: indoor events and places. They have set this up with firing the un-vaccinated. They have set this up with lobbying for no medical care for the un-vaccinated. You think this judge is anything but a Leftist? He's a Cook County, Chicago judge. He's 100% Leftist Democrat.
     
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    I never said he isn’t a leftist — I said he doesn’t represent the position of all leftists.

    I don’t know if I would consider myself a “leftist” although I am far to the left of many on the right here but I support the unvaccinated doing whatever they want as long as it does not involve governmental force — individuals on the right have successfully argued employers and places of businesses should have a right to determine their customers and employees and I agree with their position.

    Most people don’t want “no medical care” for the unvaccinated they just don’t want taxpayers having to pay for it when other conditions will cause medical bankruptcy.

    Do you believe the taxpayer should be responsible for unvaccinated COVID patients? Has this cause the right to reevaluate their position on national healthcare or should is this a “special circumstance”?
     
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    That case seems different
    From your article: broader evidence that the mother would use any tool to spite the father. It doesn’t appear the woman in this case was acting out of spite although I don’t know the full story of the case.

    If it was considered as part of a broader line of reasoning then it might make more sense but if that is it then I will have to disagree with this judge.
     
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    Are you under the impression this would be a comparable situation?

    The flu is a bigger risk to a young child than covid so the mother being unvaccinated is hardly an issue.

    But I would love to see you try to argue that it's the same or on the same level as starvation.
     
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    One parent disagreed and took it to the courts and won. Momma should honor the fathers wish.
     
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    This is not a political issue. It's a legal one.

    All of you partisans are so hateful and counterproductive. We're all in the same country. We should be trying to work together.

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    https://prospect.org/justice/even-conservative-judges-havent-shot-down-vaccine-mandates/
     
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    The father's wish? The judge decided it was needed and the judge is a moron for doing so.
     
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    It doesn't matter how/why the question is taken to court. The issue is that the judge ruled against one parent over another over a medical question.

    Let's say a family court judge is anti-vax. It would be same issue If he or she rules against a parent because they are pro-vax.

    Judges are supposed to be impartial. They're not and these types of cases clearly show that. Now, it's just got people worked up because it's happening to white people. Non-white people have been <beeped> in the system since the beginning but they don't "count" (or they must have done something wrong). Unfair is unfair. That shouldn't be dependent on someone's race, sexual orientation, religion (or lack of) or vaccine status.
     
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    At the age of 11 years old the kid is statistically among the safest age group on the plant. The judge is out of line.
     
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    I think it's worse than starvation. Starvation can have all sorts of bad effects but if the child is going to school then some observant teachers coupled with school nutrition programs will probably step in before much harm is done

    COVID in a young person can have all sorts of terrible effects, many of which it seems nobody really knows anything about.

    But fine, let your kid get heart problems in their teens. He'll thank you for preserving his FFRREEEDODOOMMM
     
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    Other than O'Kavanaugh and The Handmaid, I didn't know the Washington Examiner had their own judges...

    A simple colon would be your friend there... or remove the Washington Examiner part, since it's not part of the URL anyway...

    On topic, since the father didn't bring her vaccination status up (which he certainly could have in a visitation situation), I don't feel it's the job of a judge to do it instead... Seems to be a bad ruling in my book..
     
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    usually family judges favor the women, I bet there is more to this story

    guess we find out how much she wants to see her child, I would just get the vax if it was mine - that said, think the judge is out of line
     
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    Typically custody cases are brought on by one of the parents. My guess the father was looking for sole custody. If she is unvaccinated she is unsuitable to parent. Good judicial work.
     
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    A vaccination aka experimental drug has nothing to do with parental skills. You are reaching far on that one.

    Kids have a high immunity to the virus anyways.
     
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