Water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas not CO2 as the IPCC wants us to believe?

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  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Garry, you are only attempting to split atoms over this because your dodgy sources had no credibility.
     
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    Splitting atoms... LOL 100,000 years, a fifth of you claim... is splitting atoms...LOL No you have not supported your claim or refuted my claim.

    So a logical fallacy... what is dodgy about the source... then tell us all... what is dodgy about the data that was used to create the graph in question (which you cannot refute)?

    Talk about lack of credibility... Even if those sites have no credibility, your opinion of that is worthless. As you have demonstrated that you have no credibility yourself... LOL
     
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    oops double post
     
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    Never has been correlation between CO2 and temperature and there never will be.

    Is there any corelation between CO2 and temperature?

    On a small time scale NO, (11,000 years)

    On a medium time scale YES???, (450,000 years)
    (NO)Only because the graph is zoomed out
    On a long time scale NO, (millions of years)
     
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    Posting already debunked crud a second time does not make it less untrue
     
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    In what world have they been debunked, certainely not in the real world maybe in your world. :wink:

    In the real world we have had 1/3 of ALL MANMADE CO2 emissions released since 1998 (keeling curve), yet the temperature has remained stable.

    Most of the warming last century happened before 1940 yet due to WW2 production and CO2 emissions went up and the temperature fell from 1940 to 1970 and these same clowns back in 1970 were calling for global cooling and an ice age.

    In what world have they been debunked???????
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, it is a case of natural variations disguising the real effect. The met office and Rajendra etc etc are being misrepresented. Once again, here is the clip that highlights this issue:

    [video=youtube;W705cOtOHJ4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W705cOtOHJ4[/video]
     
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    In the real world - You might want to come and visit sometime
     
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    Thank you, I needed a smile :)
     
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    Sorry but nothing that comes from SKS can be held up as fact...being that they work WITH al gore and have been caught out as a lying sack"o"(*)(*)(*)(*) warmist site.
     
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    Natural variations such as what????????????

    What are you calling natural variations????

    You mean to tell me that the head of the IPCC Rajendra, the Met Office and James Hansen where all misrepresented at the same time?

    In what world could that possibly happen i know in the faithful of the global warming religious world.

    Thats about the only place the head of IPCC Rajendra, the Met Office and James Hansen could possibly be misrepresented at the same time about the same subject.

    OOHHH goodness has anybody told them they have been misrepresented, surely they would have seen the headlines flashing across the world??

    Yet none of them have come forward to refute this misrepresentation.

    Odd dont you think these three pillars and champions of global warming standing by while the media and global warming skeptics misrepresent them across the globe.

    Highly unlikely.

    Like i said which world boys, which world???????
     
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    You want to put your faith in algorians go right ahead.

     
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    Like i keep telling you guys when you find a correlation between CO2 and temperature please come on here and inform us all.

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    Whats this an IPCC chart confirming no warming in 16 years.

    hery hery ye faithful - the IPCC declares no warming in 16 years

    Now get on your knees and pray to Gaia that she may warm our planet lest we be rid of these skeptics.


    BTW boys you conveniently forgot about this statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    More easy to debunk graphs....cherry picking once again! These graphs should not be used in the debate again, it is a simple case of picking selective start and ending points. Here is the complete graph demonstrating how tricky it is. It is all about taking out the trend: image.jpg

    For those that are interested and haven't seen this site, it will demonstrate why the graph dumb posts is such a misrepresentation. What else have you got up your sleeve dumb. Can't be too much more!

    http://woodfortrees.org
     
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    Met office publishes figures that confirm no warming in 16 years.

    Global warming scientists concede no warming in 16 years.

     
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    Yeah if you go to that site and have a look at the data they are plotting these graphs from you will certainely understand it all.

    Choose your database many to choose from and go for it.

    You will see that the warming has stopped since 1997.

    Go here since TV is obviously lost once again.
    http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl

    You should apologise to Garry and so should vegimite jar.


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    The graph in the link still shows an upwards trend dumb! I'm not sure what you are trying to demonstrate with this. Why does Garry need an apology?
     
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    Dude there has been no warming for 16 years yet we have pumped nearly 1/3 of all manmade CO2 into the atmosphere since 1998.

    So where is the correlation of CO2 and temperature?

    Going by what the IPCC where just saying at the start of the year (changed now since they have admitted no warming for 16 years) we should have fried.

    Remember 1/3 of all manmade CO2 emissions since we started throwing the stuff up into the atmosphere.

    1/3 since 1998 has gone up.

    Again where is the correlation????

    I dont know how old you are but i would guess your a very yound and naive person.

    Weren't you making fun of Garry because of that site ???

    Yet that site has many databases gathred from around the world telling us the temperature.

    You and vegimite jar owe him an apology in my books.
     
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    Hey TV

    You should ask yourself why global warming alarmists sites only use the 450000 scale to demonstrate the correlation between CO2 and the temperature??????

    if you are indeed a truth vigilante.
     
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    So it is your strong feeling that this planet's natural cycles where balanced for human existence and nothing more? The fact that this planet has been transitioning cycles in a generally unknown manner for far longer than human existence or understanding is totally lost on you, isn't it?

    You assume that nature is catering to humans, I am sure the previous life forms on this planet thought that too. By Jesus, they must have got a shock to find out it was not being balanced for them, It was meant for humans all the time...


    How pretentious and arrogant of you, to assume an entire universe is doing things for you... LOL
     
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    Show us proof that the earth is in a cooling trend. Again, until you are able to demonstrate this my position will stay solid. Don't dodge this request dumb, go and find it, but don't find anything dodgy because it will be found out!

    We were actually making fun of how you were exposed with that website, not the site itself!
     
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    Again, No, because this is the time in which the earth found balance to support life as it did today. Co2 and temperature levels stayed fairly steady during this time!

    You use this graph too, so obviously you can now see that there is a correlation.
     
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    Fairly steady??? LOL…No it is your pretentious belief that the world should act to the benefit of man...LOL

    How about providing evidence of this so called claim of achieving balance in the last 450,000 Years... bet you cannot... LOL

    What is the correlation? So far you have not answered the very first point, you proclaim graphs as debunked (that is the only the ones you think you can refute with logical fallacies) but are still unable to answer the simplest of questions. Provide evidence of what that correlation is… Again we will just get your rhetoric, because you have nothing… LOL

    450.000 years is simply a blip in the entire scheme of the planets life cycle and that includes its climate cycles. So it is extremely safe to say, your cherry picking of the data from a point that suites your agenda that the planet was simply aligning itself to man’s wishes.

    In case you have not noticed, nature cares little about man and will continue to do what it does best, not matter what man thinks he can do to change that.... LOL

    So In other words, you cannot account for any data that does not suite your case, so you will ignore it… LOL
     

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