We All Knew This Was Coming

See again, you know nothing about debating. People play with what they believe. Another person will give information which enforces that belief or which makes one think again. You do not like ideas which you oppose presented. If you believe debate is meaningless then leave. I find your continual personal attacks a thorn to this thread.

 

Sure. You claimed to have:

If you're not a psychiatrist, why should your Wikipedia-based opinion be taken seriously by anyone? Because you said it was "well known"? or because you "certainly" believe it?

 

I neither dislike opposing ideas being presented nor do I believe that debate is meaningless. I would, however, prefer that my debate partners base their arguments in reality and not fantasies they "keep hearing".

 

I most certainly did not. I suggest you look again.

Trump is defo a narcissist and plenty of people have come out and said so. Trump is also recognised as acting somewhat bizarly - not just for a President but for anyone. Many claims have been given to justify his crazy behaviour. One I saw recently was that he is a cocaine addict.

 

No, that is not what you want. You only want people to not be 'foreigners' and to have the same opinion as you.

 

For someone who started out complaining about personal attacks, you've certainly pulled a 180. "You" "you" "you". I'd encourage others to read what I wrote, particularly in post #28.

 

Well I recently saw that he doesn't drink or use drugs.

 

I am simply saying that that is what you have wasted my time with continual personal attacks and it is because it is personal attacvks you have been presentingt rather than information that my replies obviously are towards you.

 

Yes, I heard he didn't use alcohol possibly afraid of going the same way as his brother....but if he were a cocaine addict it would make sense that he would deny taking drugs. I am not saying that is what he does but the guy used that to explain his weird behaviour and it did sound convincing although I admit I was not convinced - I did put it in the box of not impossible though. If he were a cocaine addict that would give his behaviour a reason and make it possible he would be different if not using. Would still be concerning with him being President.

 

It's also "not impossible" that Biden is a coke-head. It's a fact that Obama was a drug-user. Do either of those things concern you?

 

Excuse me, has Hillary or the Democrats accepted the 2016 elections yet? I think not! In the last election there was so much fraud by the Democrats, especially in the inner cities of key states, that if Trump had not won the election, the counting would still be going on.

Not that it mattered, the Democrats made sure that Trump wouldn't be able to put any of his policies forward anyway with lies such as Russiagate, even though he was elected because of his policies. Nor was Trump able to jail them for their crimes. They're still running around free.

Talk about tyranny and liberal fascism. Well we have it and we're seeing the fruits in cities like Seattle, Portland, etc. Thank you George Soros, you really managed it this time.

DEMOCRATS

HEE HAW!

The media's bought
and on our side,
to help us hide
our 'franken' pride,

of lies, deceits, illicit gain,
hypocrisy and willful shame
of nation; that you all hold dear
while we could care
less - Jeannette


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There is nothing wrong with his behavior that needs explaining.

 

Not impossible is a very low level of belief from me. Would take a lot more for me to believe it but it stays at not impossible. You cannot get away from the reality thatTrump's behaviour is unusual particularly for a President. He lies all the time, frequently giving a different one the next day., He does not mind at all that he lies. Does not even try to hide it anymore. He rudely throws out journalists who try to get proper information from him. I am interested to see what is going to happen to your Covid 19 'facts' now they are at the White House.

He has as his base extremist Christian Zionists and White Nationalists and he is fighting to keep them with him which he probably will. The problem will be for the people who voted for him just to say f-you to the system. The Dems, no it appears to be the Dems and Sanders did not allow Sanders to provide a different opportunity for your voters.

you say other people are not squeaky clean. I am not fan of Biden and felt let down by Obama. By the way what the US does affects the entire world.

Why do you support Trump?

 

No, I'm just saying we don't let him communicate with the Army or leave the WH. He'd still be President

We could just tell there was a new draft on and bonespurs were accepted this time. He'd be in the Bunker until November and refuse to see anything in uniform.

 

Of all the verse
That can be had
The very worse
Are memes so bad - Alex

 

We support Trump because we want to get rid of the one world order freaks, and the liberal fascists that support them. Do you really believe that anyone else who opposed them would have been able to survive the attacks?

 

"we"? If you want it done, get to it. Good luck (you'll need it).

 

Here is the meat of a response I sent to a friend last week that asked a similar question:

I generally like / approve of a fair number of the things that President Trump has done during his first term, and I dislike / disapprove of many of the policy proposals Biden and the Democrats want to see implemented.

For some specific examples, President Trump championed the passage of the Tax Cut & Jobs Act. While it wasn’t perfect (and no legislation ever is), it reduced individual and corporate taxes for most Americans (including my family). He made defeating ISIS a major focus early in his administration and has largely succeeded in doing so. He shrank the Bears Ears National Monument. President Trump has been more forceful at confronting China than any other president in my lifetime. I generally favor the sort of judges he’s nominated, as well as a bunch of minor policy moves on things like the right of the people to keep and bear arms, religious freedom, illegal immigration, school choice, federalism, etc.

Regarding Biden, I hate pretty much everything about his position on gun ownership and generally dislike the trend I’m seeing in his campaign (and the Democrats more generally) to focus on identity politics. For example, his website lists plans for blacks, women, gays, Catholics, Latinos, Asians, Jews, Muslims, and Indians. To be frank, the Democrats appear to have a strain of anti-white and anti-male attitudes that appears to be growing. Obviously that’s a bit of a turn-off for me.

If I were to pick a single word to describe his website's “Joe’s Vision For America”, it would be “meddlesome”. I generally want a less-intrusive federal government, and that’s clearly not what he wants. He’s got plans for just about everything. I’d like to see a president interested in leaving more of those decisions up to individual states and local communities, and the marketplace and individuals.

 

I suspect you support Trump because you are of the same mind. He will lead you to fascism. The Dem's likely will as well. Problem for the US and the UK and other countries is that your President and leading politicians serve the people who pay their way.

 

The Royal we, peasant.

 

I think you'll find that your crazy idea lacks any significant support among the rest of us.

 

Many people who support Trump do so because he hates the right people and makes a great fetish about doing so. He does other things but they are no more than a facade, a sop he throws occasionally to make normal people think he is something other than a megalomaniacal autocrat who wants nothing but power.

There is a hardcore in this country that doesn't just hate blacks, they hate god for making blacks (and Latinos, Muslims, and every other minority, yes, even Jews. Stephen Miller and Ivanka may be in for a surprise someday) These people would roll the cattle cars to the death camps if they could. There are, hopefully, not a whole lot of them but if you don't think that sort exists I remind you of what happened in Germany in still living memory. The cliche is true. It can happen here.

There is another hardcore that are White Nationalists, they're somewhat more civilized ostensibly but not really.
They believe that North America is the Hearth of the Aryan Master Race and no other race should be here entirely or exist here as normal residents. They favor some version of the return of slavery and/or the Madagascar solution.

The rest of the Trumpers (and the vast majority everyone hopes) are the ones that Hillary was actually at pains to mollify. They came to feel that American prosperity seemingly had no real place for them and so turned against America, or at least against what America has always said we were. These people have an honest grievance, in our concern to be fair to everyone we may have appeared to have let them down and so they turned to the demagogue. Hopefully, Trump has shown them how misguided such a course always is and they are ready to return to the best nation in the world. We will welcome them as we address their concerns and try to recover from these four long years of national nightmare.

 

Not necessarily. It's not the type of thing a politician should be charged for.

I elaborated a bit more on that in this thread: The problem with the case against Cohen

 

Good post. You outline the differences very well. Thing about Biden's plans though are they are mostly empty political rhetoric but there is enough real to define the Democrat ideas of the future.

 

I find it very gratifying that most of the ideas I express here are that way