"We aren't all the same"

While this is true, why do non-whites try to go out of their way to convince white people that people of their race/religion can be just as white as they are? We don't have to live in such a way to get white people to like us. This gesture however, is awesome.

 

What does this have to do with someone trying to "be white"? Is courtesy and decency a "white thing" suddenly? What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty thing to say.
I agree this is an awesome gesture, I don't think the specific race of either party effects that.

 

Of course not. What I'm saying is everytime a non-white person does something (rob a bank), everybody in that group has to all of a sudden defend the group. After the Boston Bombings people were demanding Muslims condemn the attacks. Let a white person rob a bank, or shoot up a school. Their whiteness is never brought up. Only non-whites ever have to defend their race, just like in the OP. If the neighbor doesn't know that "we aren't all the same" in the first place thats his ignorance.

 

Uh, if the vast majority of those people didn't subscribe to group identities, they wouldn't be treated as such in the first place. If you deliberately divide yourself from the population into a select category rather than self-identifying as a unique and individual person, you can't get mad when other people see you the way that you see yourself. If black people don't want to be assumed to all be the same, then they should stop labeling themselves as a group. Tell Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to stop calling themselves "black leaders." As if they speak for anyone other than themselves. Where are all the "white leaders?" There aren't any. This is why white people's "whiteness" is never brought up. Because they are more likely to identify as individuals rather than as a group. Minorities don't seem to get to do that. Because whenever they try, they get shouted down by the collective for daring to stray from the group.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You're either a group or you're not. If you're a group and you promote collective grievances, then you can't get mad when people think you're all the same. Because that's how you're presenting yourself. If you want to be treated like an individual, act like one. Stop clinging to the herd and be your own man.

 

I'm sorry, who anointed Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton "black leaders"? lmao. For the record, who places labels on these groups? It isn't the groups. People WANT to be looked at as an individual, and judged based on that. We can't though. If a black person robs a bank, he didn't rob the bank, "black people" in general robbed the bank. You think the group does that to itself? Really? You're smarter than that.

 

Oh I see. Just so you know, white people do have to do this too at times. It seems like some people won't really be friends with you until you assure them, I am not the white stereotype you are familiar with.
That being said, I find it foolish to ask some Muslims (or anyone) to verbally distance themselves from more violent ones. It serves no purpose, proves nothing, and is an unjust expectation. This is how group dynamics usually go down though. The majority group is the norm, and thus not able to be defined by individuals of that group. You even see this when democrats and republicans argue. The same exact same behavior may be fine, just the fringe, or morally outrageous and telling of the group as a whole, depending on who is doing it.

As for this:
"If the neighbor doesn't know that "we aren't all the same" in the first place thats his ignorance."
Putting myself in that situation, I would think the same thing. If I lived in an all white neighborhood and one (insert whatever group here) moved into the neighborhood and many of the people treated them poorly, I would want to mention that we are not all (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s too. I guess this starts with the assumption that the victim was targeted because of his race, but honestly I probably would assume that.

 

You just said being nice is a white thing, lol.

 

No, but whatever.

 

Okay, i see what you meant. What do east asians have to convince white people? They seem to coexist peacefully. Sorry but islamic extremists made a name for themselves. Blacks made a name for themselves. Even hispanics did. Whether you like it or not you will be judged by your race.

Its up to each individual to either be as good or better than the reputation their race has accumulated, or prove that they are not the reason it has a bad one.

 

Thank you for proving my point.

 

That's nice. It's good to know not all the world out there isn't filled with bad people.

 

I have an incredible amount of respect for you putting up with this forum. Your existence here proves your point.

Me saying this will make me a self loathing loser to many here. But I just don't care, truth is truth.

My neighbors think I am racist because my wife loves trees (growing on our property) that drop limbs on their property, and I don't cut them down.

Ignorance is universal. People are going to think what they want because it makes them feel better about themselves.

But you being here makes me feel better about humanity in general.

Peace.

 

Great post all around, but this x5000.

 

islamic extremists for the most part are WHITE, Hitler was white, Stalin was white, timothy McVeigh was white, ted bundy was white, no one is judging me because I happen to have the same colour skin as they do...

 

They are usually Arab. Call them white to their face.

 

I agree that a lot of the problem is in these groups, but if you look at this board, it is the extreme US Right making the most noise and blaming all blacks or all muslims for the actions of the few. It is they who are contribution the most to the divisions in society.

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Which makes the jews?

 

To all those talking about "black people" , have you ever met an African African ? and if yes did he /she resemble anything close to Afroamericans ?

 

The ones more likely to deny white existence in the first place..

Non-Arab Semites

Or Jews.

 

The Pashtun are not Arabs.

 

And they still arent white.

 

..underwear bomber wasn't an arab, boston bombers weren't arab, pakistani bombers aren't arab, Talibam bombers aren't arab, leader of the Algerian gas plant wasn't arab(canadian), Canada's July1st bomb conspiracy couple weren't arab...as scientifically speaking there are no races attributing anything to white, black, brown, yellow red pink or green races is scientifically wrong and it's racist...even under the old erroneous beliefs arabs were white, people who claimed different then were blatantly racist...and ya I've told a number of brown people they were white and they had no issue with it they were pleased to be recognized as equals...

 

oh but they are...

 

hey that's not a fair question...

 

Yeah, it's "THEM" that's responsible.