What are your views on Germany protests?

Do you think Germany protesting Islam is racist or xenophobic, or do you think theyre doing it for a valid reason?

Well, I dont think theyre racist, since many muslims are of European descent and its not just a religion that brown people belong to (many southeastern european countries like Albania are muslim majority-germany has many converts to islam of german descent), so that is a moot arguement, but I do believe they are being xenophobic. I dont believe they are racist though-despite being mainly a religion middle eastern and south asians belong to-there are Muslims of different skin colors and nationalities-including whites-so accusing Germans of protesting Islam because of racism is a strawman.

They are protesting people of a different culture and religion immigrating to their country, which I dont agree with. The Western countries have always had an open door policy towards immigrants, unlike oriental countries who allow very few immigrants, because they dislike multiculturalism and want a homogeneous society ( for example Japans immigration policies are so strict only about 2% of their population is non-japanese-western countries have never been like that). The fact that Germany is being like that now, and is protesting immigration, is something I disagree with-it goes against the cultural values of Europe and the US.

as I said before, I dont believe Germany is protesting immigration from muslim countries because of racist reasons, but i still think they are being xenophobic and I dont see a valid reason for what theyre doing.

Anybody disagree? If so, explain why.

 

Seems to me this is more about the EU and ever more centralized power structures, than Germany herself.

 

They attract the nuts jobs. But they're right. I'd rather a bunch of hypocritical, pacified Christians who don't actually follow their holy book very accurately (modern European Christians) to recent Islamic immigrants who throw tantrums when someone tells them they think Islam is evil/retarded/etc and then get the government to give them special legal privileges and criminalize criticism of their religion (because they are more pious and faithful than Europeans are and take the words of their book (which tells them they are special and always right) very seriously). Since most countries don't have absolute freedom of speech, I think the US is the only country where hate speech laws of some form don't exist (I think Norway might not, but I'm not sure). When you start fining people for saying what they think about someone else's religion, you're crossing a line and you deserve all the (*)(*)(*)(*) these people throw at you in response.

 

Elaborate. I dont quite get what youre implying.g

 

I'm shocked on how many backward xenophobic people are there in Germany, a country that I always hold above other European nations.

I think another Hitler is quite real a possibility in Germany. Just take the right time.

 

You should look into the backlash in Greece with the golden dawn party. There is some real violent people there

 

Don't care. I never think highly of modern greece.

 

Some people have argued "Germans are protesting muslims because muslims are making demands". How would you reply to that?

 

They all need a new hobby.

 

I would reply:"Someone please talk to the publisher for Merriam Webster and make them replace the definition of Oxymoron with this one?"

 

Not everybody likes seeing their country and culture being invaded and destroyed. Some Germans believe Germany belongs to Germans, not the 3rd world. Imagine that!

 

Let's jsut say this kind of mentality isn't exactly very 1st-worldly.

 

I think they need to be careful not to elect another Hitler

 

The failure of European multiculturalism on full display. How's that hijab ban working out??

 

Germany was desperate to be the Leader of a European Union...yet both Germany and France have real issues about Muliculturalism as well do not seem to understand that with the benefits of such a Union come the pitfalls such as Greece.

The United States has such issues but no one in the U.S. complains when a state like...Alabama...needs more monetary hel then say...Massachusetts.

We consider ourselves ALL STATES OF THE UNITED STATES.

Germany and France do not consider themselves as one in the same as Greece.

AboveAlpha

 

seems like a good idea to me - more countries should do the same

 

Who says? The first world countries became what they are back when they were much more homogenous than they are now. This social experiment is still a relatively new phenomenon.

Some of the cities within driving distance from me look like 3rd world countries. If someone blindfolded you, dropped you off, and said "enjoy Mexico!" there'd be little around to tip you off that you were still in America. Those same areas were white middle class areas 50-60 years ago, and now they are crime filled, poverty stricken ghettos. What's "1st-wordly" about that?

 

There are MILLIONS of Muslims who are U.S. Citizens living in the U.S. peacefully.

They are a valuable part of our National Fabric.

Islamic Extremism is not Islam...and should not be confused with it.

In the same way the Old Testament has an Eye for an Eye...and cut off the hand of a thief...so does the Koran as they talk about the same GOD.

AboveAlpha

 

Probably as well as our "English as a second language" program. But you don't care about that. Tacos good.

 

not sure about the US, but Europe should put a stop to Islam immigration - you're welcome to them! lol

 

What Europe needs is a mad dash to the right. Mass deportations, strict limits on immigration, much stronger penalties for crime, very loose gun laws. For the sake of Western culture, let's hope they elect someone that can accomplish these things. You progressives really don't want a Muslim dominated society in the West. You may think you do, because you love brown people and the things they do, but you really don't want it.

 

You really can't subject European countries to America's standards. America is a migrant country, those European countries are not. They still have a long way to go.

Bottom line is, it's the intolerant, xenophobic old Europe mentality provided soil and air for the weeds of extremism, not the other way around.

 

We agree with the protesters. From the American perspective: We allow freedom of religion, which is good, but Islam as it turns out in practice, in many cases, does not. Sets up a tension. This is a tricky conundrum to resolve. It seems that too many of the core principles of the two sides here are incompatible, and when that happens, we'd have to go with 'who was here first?'

We want people to be free to practice their religion. But when practicing their religion means denying others the freedom to practice their religion, it's a problem. We've been wrestling with this since about two days after 9/11/01. There does not seem to be a tidy summation.

 

True.

France..a self stated ENLIGHTENED STATE...went and outlawed the ability of women to WEAR VEILS!! LOL!!!

Aswell the French Cultural Ministry outlawed the use of the American Techno-word.....E-Mail...as they called it a word that was erroding the very fabric of French Culture. LOL!!!

The wearing of a VEIL...could NEVER...be outlawed in the United States.

AboveAlpha

 

we progressives do not want a gov dominated by ANY religion, we believe in religious freedom for all

and please.... don't confuse skin color with religion...

"fanatical Christians attack fellow Christians for "looking" Muslim"

http://www.northjersey.com/opinion/on-this-ground-zero-tolerance-1.320911?page=all

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