What Can Be Done To Stop Destructive Tornados ?

I can see it now; the government tornado and hurricane 'death panels'. The government finds a method to eradicate a tornado or hurricane but then needs to make decisions 'when' to use the technology? Maybe the government won't care about Category 1, 2 and 3 storms? Maybe the government won't care about storms in certain areas? Or if there are several storms in parallel which one(s) get priority?

Seems logical to me if we build our homes on an earthquake fault that those home owners need to assume 100% of the costs of potential earthquake damage. Or homes built on earthquake faults must be built to withstand the worst possible scenario.

Now if we carry this over to building homes where tornadoes and hurricanes are known to exist on an annual basis, why shouldn't home owners assume 100% of the costs of potential damage?

If we build a home within a 25-50-100 year flood plain, why shouldn't the home owners assume 100% of the costs of potential damage?

Lastly, why do governments provide building and development permits in known areas of catastrophic natural disasters? Why do some of us talk about global climate change, and rising sea levels, yet places like the barrier islands in NY and NJ are being rebuilt...at sea level? Why do we rebuild parts of New Orleans at sea level...or below sea level?

Maybe our problem here is not the tornadoes or hurricanes or earthquakes, etc. but the arrogance of humans...

 

This post would have been successful IF it has a shred of evidence to support its contention. In the absence of that, It's just another "I think this" post, standing on nothing. Ho hum. Yawn *****

 

Seeing as how my suggestion is just an experiment, I would try all levels of the tornado, and see what effects occur. Where ever the most amount of damage to the tornado occurs with the least amount of effort, that's the one.

I wasn't the one suggesting the microwaves, but obviously, the microwaves would be aimed at the top of the tornado, where the cold air (coming from the Rockies) is.

 

You think they can be stopped....but I have heard nothing but pure fantasy.

If we could heat or cool the air...or change the patterns of storms ...we could control the weather...until then you are talking nonsense.

 

Source: "Atmospheric Heating as a Research Tool"

American Meterological Society....
https://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/139228.pdf

 

I'm not the one that is doubting NOAA on climatology. I'm sure that they've looked into the idea of stopping storms much.

Hurricanes are a part of the global circulation of the earth. It's just common sense. They are major movers of heat and humidity from the tropics to the temperate zone.

In terms of droughts, tropical storms are a major source of getting rid of droughts. Tropical Storm Debby in 2012 took northern Florida from being in drought conditions to flooding.

http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs...m-debby-florida-lurches-from-drought-to-flood

 

They laughed at Tesla and the Wright Brothers....I believe with a tweaking of existing technology it would be feasible to alter the mesocyclonic rotation responsible for tornado formation...by localized atmospheric heating using satellite based microwave emitters. This is not science fiction so far removed reality as the "so called" experts on this thread imply...that it isn't worth investing in the feasibility through experimentation on a smaller scale.

 

I have 2 You tube videos titled STOPPING A TORNADO. The 1st' one is 10 minutes long and is my theory on how to PREVENT a tornado touch down. The 2nd one is how to stop one once on the ground.
A week ago I was on a talk show and got to explain my theory . It is an total out-of-the-box solution and after people have seen the video and hear my 45 minute explanation I get the same response. No one has thought of that before and one day in the future I can see how it would work.
Be safe

CHUCK MANGINO

 

So what's the theory ?

 

Dude, I taught Geography at 4 colleges of the City University of New York. If I would have said that hurricanes were part of the global circulation of the earth, I wouldn't have been there for 4 days. The global circulation of the earth is an entirely different thing than hurricanes. It is something that is there ALL THE TIME, as opposed to hurricanes, which are occasional occurances.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7p.html

As for NOAA having "looked into the idea of stopping storms much", >> Yeah ? And what makes you "sure" of that ? Got a link (if you're "sure")

 

We'll take the very liberal estimate of 100 deaths in Oklahoma per year from tornadoes. Pretty sure you were joking, but IMO the solution is to just suck it up and hope you're not one of the 0.000026% of Oklahoma residents who are killed annually.

Building underground cities or trying to build homes that can withstand F4 tornadoes is such an excessive reaction, in my opinion. Build a tornado shelter, and try to know where the nearest one is at all times. That'll do you fine.

 

Prevent tornado from forming in the last 1000 feet before touch down.

 

STOPPING A TORNADO. Airborne M.A.S.E.R.S + Supercomputers The Mangino Solution.

Since the spring of 1968, I have often thought about developing a method for preventing funnel clouds from forming or stopping a tornado that has already formed and causing destruction. It started in a science class in the 5th grade, in 1968 when I was 10 years old. Our class that day was about tornados, and in 1968, researchers were just starting to learn how they formed. During the lesson, I asked the teacher if anyone had ever stopped a tornado before. The thought of stopping a tornado was so outlandish at the time that everyone in class had a good laugh. At the end of the class, I asked the teacher what would happen if someone were to strap oven eyes, like on a stove, along the side of a jet airliner. Of course, everyone had another laugh at my expense. In my young mind, I thought that huge oven eyes would heat the air and somehow disrupt the formation of tornados.Thirty years later, in 1998, I found myself in the direct path of a large tornado in Alabama. This harrowing event brought back all of the interest I had as a young boy in how to stop the formation of a tornado. I could not stop thinking about it. By December 2006, I had come up with a more advanced solution. My idea was that of developing an Airborne MASER (Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation). Think of your microwave oven. In microwave cooking, a magnetron generates radio waves that penetrate the food and excite water and fat molecules. There is heat everywhere all at once because the molecules are all excited together. The microwave heating process is different from a conventional oven because you are "exciting atoms" rather than "conducting heat". The process of exciting atoms heats the food, and it is the same process that can heat matter in and around the formation of a tornado funnel. By disrupting the air patterns in the sky at two different altitudes with two different MASERS, the circular pattern could be quickly disrupted.During development, supercomputers using computational fluid dynamics and sophisticated modeling and simulation software would be used to provide 3-dimensional models researchers could use to determine the exact power the MASER needs to excite the atoms, where the waves should be aimed, the duration needed, optimum placement and movement of the MASER and a multitude of other variables. Once the actual MASER is developed, onboard computing power would be sufficient to perform all of the actions needed to operate the MASER. Ultimately, MASERS could be made that were cost efficient, easier to manufacture and operate and could potentially be small enough to be mobile or mounted in numerous locations where tornados occur frequently.The resources for developing a MASER specifically made for stopping tornados already exist. The U.S. owns many of the world’s largest supercomputers as well as secure fiber optic networks that could be used to connect researchers all over the. Modeling and simulation software and hardware are already being used in similar ways, and now, after the devastating tornados in Oklahoma in May 2013, there is a national focus on the problem. What is needed is for a government organization or large university to take the lead in developing the initial research program, and funding is needed that will ensure research doesn’t get lost in the shuffle, resources are not allocated to other projects and that policy makers keep the project alive for the time needed to develop a working prototype. In the not too distant future, the use of MASERS could be as common as weather forecasters using supercomputers and radar to predict and track weather in real-time. Along with existing STEM (science, technology engineering and math) programs, degree programs with a focus on using MASERS for a variety of purposes could advance the research immensely. In the future, preventing or stopping tornados could save countless lives and billions of dollars in damage to homes, business, national infrastructure and our economy. The April 27, 2011 tornado that devastated Phil Campbell, Alabama killed two good friends of mine. After seeing the destruction on YouTube and learning of my friend’s deaths, I started working on a video and a program titled STOPPING a TORNADO INITIATIVE 2012. That was the title of my first YouTube video and the STEM program I would start. Now, I have a second video that outlines my solution on stopping a tornado on the ground. After the recent horror caused by the tornado's in and around Moore, Oklahoma, media interest in my ideas has increased immensely. I have been interviewed by The Tennessean newspaper, featured on their website and appeared on a local talk show. In the year leading up to the tornados in Oklahoma, I had made over 2000 attempts by phone, sending DVDs, letters, and Emails to generate interest in my idea. I regret that it took disasters like those in Oklahoma for me to get an opportunity to explain my idea. After 45 years of developing this idea, all I ask is for experts in policy makers to look at my idea with an open mind, to think outside the box for a moment and imagine the possibilities if my idea becomes a reality. I know a solution to stopping tornados will not be developed over night, but the technology is available now to make this happen. The TV interview is on YouTube, “LIVING 05-28-2013” and my interview starts 26 minutes and 45 seconds into the program. It lasts about 10 minutes. My theory on how to prevent a tornado from touching down is on YouTube, “STOPPING a TORNADO INITIATIVE 2012, CHUCK MANGINO” and it is 10 minutes long and gives a very basic explanation of my theory. My theory on stopping a tornado on the ground is on YouTube, “STOPPING a TORNADO PART 2, 2013, CHUCK MANGINO”. The article appeared in The Tennessean newspaper on their website in the May 23, 2013 issue and is titled Tennessee man says microwave technology can stop tornadoes. I hope you will take the time to watch the videos or read the articles on my ideas and take positive actions to carry the research further.
CHUCK MANGINO
213 Bragg Circle
Tullahoma , Tenn. 37388

931-393-3674

chuckmangino51@gmail.com

 

Preventing a tornado from touching down. STOPPING A TORNADO. Airborne M.A.S.E.R.S + Disrupting Weather Patterns + Supercomputers The Mangino Solution.

Since the spring of 1968, I have often thought about developing a method for preventing funnel clouds from forming or stopping a tornado that has already formed and causing destruction. It started in a science class in the 5th grade, in 1968 when I was 10 years old. Our class that day was about tornados, and in 1968, researchers were just starting to learn how they formed. During the lesson, I asked the teacher if anyone had ever stopped a tornado before. The thought of stopping a tornado was so outlandish at the time that everyone in class had a good laugh. At the end of the class, I asked the teacher what would happen if someone were to strap oven eyes, like on a stove, along the side of a jet airliner. Of course, everyone had another laugh at my expense. In my young mind, I thought that huge oven eyes would heat the air and somehow disrupt the formation of tornados.Thirty years later, in 1998, I found myself in the direct path of a large tornado in Alabama. This harrowing event brought back all of the interest I had as a young boy in how to stop the formation of a tornado. I could not stop thinking about it. By December 2006, I had come up with a more advanced solution. My idea was that of developing an Airborne MASER (Microwave Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation). Think of your microwave oven. In microwave cooking, a magnetron generates radio waves that penetrate the food and excite water and fat molecules. There is heat everywhere all at once because the molecules are all excited together. The microwave heating process is different from a conventional oven because you are "exciting atoms" rather than "conducting heat". The process of exciting atoms heats the food, and it is the same process that can heat matter in and around the formation of a tornado funnel. By disrupting the air patterns in the sky at two different altitudes with two different MASERS, the circular pattern could be quickly disrupted.During development, supercomputers using computational fluid dynamics and sophisticated modeling and simulation software would be used to provide 3-dimensional models researchers could use to determine the exact power the MASER needs to excite the atoms, where the waves should be aimed, the duration needed, optimum placement and movement of the MASER and a multitude of other variables. Once the actual MASER is developed, onboard computing power would be sufficient to perform all of the actions needed to operate the MASER. Ultimately, MASERS could be made that were cost efficient, easier to manufacture and operate and could potentially be small enough to be mobile or mounted in numerous locations where tornados occur frequently.The resources for developing a MASER specifically made for stopping tornados already exist. The U.S. owns many of the world’s largest supercomputers as well as secure fiber optic networks that could be used to connect researchers all over the. Modeling and simulation software and hardware are already being used in similar ways, and now, after the devastating tornados in Oklahoma in May 2013, there is a national focus on the problem. What is needed is for a government organization or large university to take the lead in developing the initial research program, and funding is needed that will ensure research doesn’t get lost in the shuffle, resources are not allocated to other projects and that policy makers keep the project alive for the time needed to develop a working prototype. In the not too distant future, the use of MASERS could be as common as weather forecasters using supercomputers and radar to predict and track weather in real-time. Along with existing STEM (science, technology engineering and math) programs, degree programs with a focus on using MASERS for a variety of purposes could advance the research immensely. In the future, preventing or stopping tornados could save countless lives and billions of dollars in damage to homes, business, national infrastructure and our economy. The April 27, 2011 tornado that devastated Phil Campbell, Alabama killed two good friends of mine. After seeing the destruction on YouTube and learning of my friend’s deaths, I started working on a video and a program titled STOPPING a TORNADO INITIATIVE 2012. That was the title of my first YouTube video and the STEM program I would start. Now, I have a second video that outlines my solution on stopping a tornado on the ground. After the recent horror caused by the tornado's in and around Moore, Oklahoma, media interest in my ideas has increased immensely. I have been interviewed by The Tennessean newspaper, featured on their website and appeared on a local talk show. In the year leading up to the tornados in Oklahoma, I had made over 2000 attempts by phone, sending DVDs, letters, and Emails to generate interest in my idea. I regret that it took disasters like those in Oklahoma for me to get an opportunity to explain my idea. After 45 years of developing this idea, all I ask is for experts in policy makers to look at my idea with an open mind, to think outside the box for a moment and imagine the possibilities if my idea becomes a reality. I know a solution to stopping tornados will not be developed over night, but the technology is available now to make this happen. The TV interview is on YouTube, “LIVING 05-28-2013” and my interview starts 26 minutes and 45 seconds into the program. It lasts about 10 minutes. My theory on how to prevent a tornado from touching down is on YouTube, “STOPPING a TORNADO INITIATIVE 2012, CHUCK MANGINO” and it is 10 minutes long and gives a very basic explanation of my theory. My theory on stopping a tornado on the ground is on YouTube, “STOPPING a TORNADO PART 2, 2013, CHUCK MANGINO”. The article appeared in The Tennessean newspaper on their website in the May 23, 2013 issue and is titled Tennessee man says microwave technology can stop tornadoes. I hope you will take the time to watch the videos or read the articles on my ideas and take positive actions to carry the research further.
CHUCK MANGINO
213 Bragg Circle
Tullahoma , Tenn. 37388

931-393-3674

chuckmangino51@gmail.com

 

The above statement is indeed funny (okay, lol) and intended to be a dab of cynicism and satire. However, inadvertently, it is true. Democrats (aka liberals) do in fact fund and subsidize the root cause of the ever increasing amount of huge, destructive thunderstorms and tornadoes America is experiencing.

Democrats are funding and subsidizing the production of corn-based ethanol which is an utterly useless product that no one wants, yet they keep producing and storing it in millions of tank farms.

Farmers and mega-farmers are encouraged by Democrats to cut down trees and clear millions of acres of land throughout the mid west to grow corn to produce ever more ethanol. These millions of square miles of land with nothing but corn rows to help slow down and break the swirling winds sweeping across the mid-west, make high-altitude winds-aloft conditions perfect for spawning violent thunderstorms which produce tornadoes.

What can be done to stop destructive tornadoes? Stop Democrats from funding Obama fuel (ethanol).

 

Hurricanes are part of that circulation. They move hot air and moisture from the tropics to the temperate zone. Yes, hurricanes are occasional occurrences, but they are part of that overall circulation. To use your reference, the hurricanes are involved with the rising part of the Hadley cell.

The thing is, I already proved the point about drought relief and hurricanes. Any attempt to stop a hurricane will change the weather pattern, and possibly stop drought relief. Or to put it simply, if you mess with mother nature, you're going to cause unintended consequences.

 

I am pleased my children are not old enough to attend a college you taught at, as the re-education would be trying.

 

No matter what anybody says, you are apparently going to take pieces of geography and fit them into YOUR scheme of things. Have fun.

What's the problem ? And can you even define "Geography" ?

 

Though terrain and landmass distribution certainly effect world weather systems.....they are one piece of the complexity found in weather circulation.

 

Nobody is talking about "weather circulation" (nor have I ever even heard of any such thing). Sounds like (like peridochas) you don't know what the Global Circulation of the Earth means. Feel free to engage in "re-education" down to ignorance. When know-nothings attempt to presume to know something, they tend to get distracted/confused by the abundance of words/factors involved in global circulation. Sometimes it helps to simplify it for you. It's basically Polars, Westerlies, and Trades flowing in different directions depending on the hemisphere. If you wish to pretend you have knowledge here, proceed. No law against it.

Now back to the TOPIC. Why aren't tax$ endowed officials working on stopping tornados ? Maybe this is what Americans should be more upset about than say the NSA thing.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7p.html

 

"...just suck it up and hope you're not one of the 0.000026% of Oklahoma residents who are killed annually."

Taxcutter says:
That's precisely what people in such places (like the hurricane-prone parts of the East Coast or earthquake-prone West Coast) do. By no means would I have government force people to build underground homes, but if you've ever lived through one, it seems a smart idea to harden one's domicile.

The only civic action I would advocate is to get government (mostly in the permitting process) out of the way of peoplke wanting to build such domestic fortifications if they wish.

 

Almost like saying if a foreign army were to invade, we should just harden our domicile, hide, and hope we don't get killed. I prefer the ounce of prevention scenario.

 

Prevention is recommended as long as it is not being forced by the government.

 

So you would have opposed going to war against Germany and Japan, in 1941 ? That was forced by the govt.

 

What bothers me is when government allows mobile trailers or sub-standard buildings in known tornado or hurricane areas. If the people assumed full liability for their actions and didn't expect taxpayers to fix the destruction every time it happens then no big deal, but if government feels it must assume the liability, then some building codes IMO make sense. In my area there are strict codes for buildings to handle earthquakes...they're not perfect but they're a step in the right direction...