SO you are saying that abortion will be made illegal again, but it may take 100 years? Why should we put up with this oppression of the least among us?
You want to oppress women by forcing them to keep zefs in their "uteros". Women need to control their reproduction these days. Women cannot compete in the marketplace if they have no control over their reproduction....but then, that's what you want, isn't it?
If I need a kidney in order to live and you are a perfect match then you, by choice, decide not to give me a kidney have you murdered me? Has my right to life been violated? If government, through pressure of it's citizens, decides my right to life is paramount over your right to choose is this a just act and a correct action by government? Are one set of rights paramount over another? Abortion is a horrible thing but the alternative of having government decide our freedom to choose is second to our right to life is a greater tragedy still. Why compound one tragedy with a greater one?
So you've determined that the right to life trumps the right to choose. Is this in every case? You should be careful because you are stepping in a really big one...
Actually I am not. I have repeatedly stated that I just want all homicide laws to be reasonably consistent.
If belief in an omnipotence is a religion then so is non-belief in an omnipotence. It's all belief. What? I was correct that your posts are pompous? Ok then. It was a lousy summation. Apparently when on the ropes, you decide it is no longer 'worth debating' so you throw in swear words. Not unlike many secularists who when challenged cannot seem to summon any kind of logical argument. Like I said your ignorance is astounding. I never said that. No it was founded on Judeo-Christian morals and values with the caveat that there should be no establishment of a State church and that the worship of every religion is not to be prohibited. So you are against the Atheist displays in Pallisades Park? Right...I say that the US was founded on Judeo-Christian morals and values and you call it bullsh!#. Sorry, you don't exhibit much of an open mind there. And...since the MAJORITY of Americans are CHRISTIAN, Christmas is a NATIONAL HOLIDAY then, Nativity scenes on public property are perfectly acceptable and DO NOT violate the establishment clause. Well then, Atheists are in clear violation per your translation. Then religious displays on public land can't represent the State. Which you have to prove and you have failed to do so. There is no State Church despite centuries of religious displays on public land. Show where the Establishment Clause describes the 'right way' to worship.
Likewise those who beleive in science above religion are essentially worshipping science as their religion, unless they themselves are experts in the scientific field in question and have first hand knowledge of the experiments that paved the way for the hypothesis they beleive in. Otherwise, they are exercising blind faith in science and scientists.
You don't have to be an "expert" in a particular field in order to think that something related to said field is likely true (or untrue), not based on "faith", but on reason.
If you make a deal with me that you will provide me all of the support I need for survival, then once i'm totally reliant on you, you cut all support, you would have effectively murdered me.
You are still struggling with attempts to post relevant or intelligent material. You are making comments about people you don't know or spouting irrelevant nonsense. Science did not even enter this particular discussion. Needing first hand knowledge about scientific experiments in order to understand it or accept is just a stupid remark. It show that you are very ill informed about anything scientific.
If that is the best you can do with your reasoning ability, there is not need to pursue this aspect anymore. Your reading comprehension is also lacking. It was spot on and now that you realize it you are all butt hurt that you were caught making bigoted statements. Quite un-Christian I might add. The fact that the founders chose to keep religion and their beliefs out of the supreme law of the nation they founded is self evident and not based on logic. That your dogmatic belief that anything good can only come from God will not be changed by logic, reasoning or facts, that much you have already demonstrated. I am not the one ignoring reality or historical fact, you are. When unable to rebut do you always ask moronic questions? An accurate observation. You still can get past the fact that murder and theft have been immoral before Moses received the commandments. How would you know? I just love when people profess to be something but only in name. It is the embodiment of hypocrisy. and a wonderful one at that. Your point? Actually they do, but I do not expect you to understand why. Yea, shoot the bastards... WTF is that supposed to mean? Who said there was? Are you truly this devoid of reading comprehension? WTF are you babbling about?
You are not running away, are you? After all if it is drivel you should be able to refute it easily, no?
No one has all the answers so it is pompous and sophistic to claim those who believe in a higher power are somehow misguided. I also notice that when challenged these devout so-called 'secularists' get nasty and vindictive.
A sample of the questionable intelligence of Prometeus Seems you can't disagree without derision, condescension, and nasty language. BTW mods...How come I got dinged for writing 'WTF' by Shiva D and this pompous fool can spew venom with abandon?
Apparently YOU are against them. Why do you believe Christian displays are fine, but not atheist displays?
Believing in God is is not misguided. Attributing to God what is man made is ignorant on the other hand and betrays small minded dogma driven reasoning. Disregarding facts in favor of religion driven explanation IS misguided, resulting in uninformed opinion. You were shown a number of times where you were in error. In return you misrepresented my posts and asked what can only be described as stupid questions, in an attempt to save your failed points. There is nothing nasty pointing out ignorance in face of repeated explanations of what reality is. If you are all butt hurt about it maybe you should take your toys and play where you are either better equipped or where facts are not relevant.
You can disagree all you want, you don't even have to give reasons why, but when you repeatedly misrepresent what I post you are either purposely lying or can not understand what I posted. I'd be glad to rephrase if asked but instead you chose to misrepresent.
Atheist displays exist everywhere..LOL With regard to Pallisades park, I am against Atheists making sure religious displays were thwarted by hogging most of the display spots.
You know that isn't true (or funny). Atheists were winners of the lottery for those spots. Christians have monopolized the spots for years, effectively thwarting atheist or other non-Christian religious displays. Why do you think Christians have more right to them than atheists?
It is true...And it is funny. Atheists organized to take those spots. Christians NEVER 'monopolized' the spots trying to push others out. No, this was an organized Atheist grab under the auspices of 'Freedom From Religion' which, in itself, is an ignorant statement. It's CHRISTMAS which is a NATIONAL HOLIDAY...it is not an Atheist holiday yet, Atheists want to stamp it out.
I suppose that explains why Christians feel the need to slap their religious icons on every inch of public property. How does one "organize" to win a lottery? That is a ridiculous "war on Christmas" myth. Atheists mostly want to leave others to their own beliefs, but they and many others object to public property being used to promote those beliefs.
