What Happens to Societies as Their Muslim Populations Grow?

LOL, comparing apples and oranges now are ya, the sign of having no ability to debate the truth. Be Afraid, be Very Afraid, that is what the Radical Muslims and the RWNJ's want you to be, it furthers both their agendas.

 

Will you wait to see salafist and veiled women in your neighbourhood to react ? Or will you wait that youth gang start enforcing islamic laws through fear ( like in Suburbs of Paris, London ect .. )

Tell me by the xay why is there is no irrational fear about buddhist ?

 

The Muslim population in the US is predicted to be 1% of the population 20 YEARS from now. So since we know less than 1 % of Muslims are of the radical side that means you believe that less than one 10th of 1 % of the population are going to be running the show in the US. Sorry to inform ya this is not France where that will be tolerated, just as we do not tolerate other radicals to run the show here.
If a woman wants to wear a veil, due to personal or religous reasons, that is fine by me and I do not feel threatened by people with different beliefs. Look at it logically and put on your big boy pants and stop being so fearful.
Silly question, buddists are pacifists, radicals do not really exist among them, unlike almost every other religion.

 

What is offensive about mosques? I don't attend them (I don't attend any religious services) but I don't see them as a threat. I disagree with their policies but respect their rights to have them. I eat at Persian restaurants. I hardly ever see white people there but I could care less. It doesn't mean they are posing a "threat" to me. Halal foods are no more alarming than kosher foods, which also have a presence in the US.

Very well said.

 

Your attitude seems very much one that is in vogue mainly among those under the age of 30.

It's as though you are saying you can put up with a certain amount of termites in your home just as long as things don't get too extreme.

But, if you've never owned a home and if you've never had a termite infestation and you've never had to deal with trying to stop the ravages of a termite infestation, your opinion of termites can afford to be unrealistic and, if I may say so, sophomoric.

'Sure! Let the cute little buggers set up shop in this house I live in. Don't be alarmed at the first signs of an infestation. They aren't hurting anyone.'

 

'And if things ever did get out of hand someone else will just deal with it while I watch, unfazed.'

 

Well if the general population over 30 thinks it's logical to compare humans to termites, then maybe being under 30 is a good thing. Then again, I'm a guy who would work in the Middle East if I got the chance, so I might not be the right person to ask.

 

Here's your chance.

Be sure to send us a postcard.

 

Sweden's muslim population is currently at 5% (see note below) and there are already apparent problems (though of course the media will not talk about it).

I do want to point out that it depends what country these people come from - Turkey is better than some of the others.

There seem to be at least three different factors: religion, culture, and genetic propensity to violence. It is not all just about Islam, although these factors are very much interrelated

(by some estimates it is as high as 11% if one counts non-practicing children of muslims)

 

Yes look whats happens to countries with termite problems such as Lebanon, India and Egypt. Its all well and good to accept having a few while but once the numbers build you can quickly lose your home.

[video=youtube;zIBk8rZvIWw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBk8rZvIWw&list=FL-9ZWa3xwj5awjeFzXnJDSQ&index=128[/video]

 

In 1940 a young college student named John F. Kennedy wrote his thesis on the subject of why England did nothing as a rearmed Nazi Germany began it's rampage across Europe. At the time there were quite a few serious political observers who truly believed Adolph Hitler would stop after he annexed the Sudetenland. Then all of Austria. Then after he invaded Czechoslovakia. Who in Europe at the time actually imagined Hitler's goal was global conquest?

Well, we have no excuse in the year 2013 for not paying attention to the signs of Muslim growth, economically and demographically as well as attempts at geographic expansion all focused on the ultimate goal of global domination.

Yet, some posters here, mostly young ones but not exclusively so, seem so inured by thousands of hours of TV & movie watching and video game playing it's as though they aren't able to experience any sense of alarm until they actually see calamity before their eyes or physicaly feel the heat of an explosion. That's like having a smoke alarm that only activates when the smoke concentration in the room is at a deadly level. They need to take action now before the problem escalates to the lethal stage. But a person's sense of self preservation is highly personal and just because you or I say they should be concerned about the march of Islam doesn't mean they will take precautions.

I suppose the only thing we can do is try to figure out how to prevent their attitudes from spreading and 'infecting others.

 

I don't wanna be prejudiced, but muslims have serious problems of integration and adaptation. The always want the country where they live in to change , whe it's supposed to be the opposite, muslims should addapt their culture to their new country.

They are also very intolerants, I saw a video from Australia, where there was a demonstration of muslims outside an atheist meeting, sending all atheist to hell (as usual). But if you insult muslims you must be beheaded.

 

I enjoy the freshness of your view and welcome you to PF as well as to this fine thread.

 

long term they adopt the values of the nation they reside in...first generation may stay loyal to their culture but the 2nd and 3rd generations become integrated with the majority...in Netherlands they found that children born their converted to atheism at the same rate as other religions, quality secular education destroys religion...

 

Employing Aetheism to control radical Islam sounds as risking of backfire as was employing the Mujahideen to resist the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Who will be the Aetheist's new dic, er, I mean figurehead leader? Their equivalent of OBL.

The answer to the problem of a metastasizeing radical Islam is not to prohibit worship of all the other genuine, benign religions.

 

there is no master plan to control radical islam or any other religion with atheism...atheism is the natural outcome of secular education, knowledge is enlightenment and leads to moderation...it's no coincidence that as a population becomes better educated with a secular education the percentage of atheists in the population also increases...