What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

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What Is The Underlying Cause Of Astronomically High Black Crime Rates?

  1. Genetics

    23.2%
  2. Greed

    8.1%
  3. Low intelligence

    20.2%
  4. Poverty

    38.4%
  5. Other

    48.5%
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  1. Zook

    Zook New Member

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    Well, reality and real life says that's just a bunch of bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    You should really change your username.
     
  2. Mr_Truth

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    Easy to criticize when you have been hit with an argument that you cannot answer. The researchers who compiled Freakonomics are White so you cannot accuse them of reverse racism. The Truth does hurt and this is undoubtedly what stimulated you to make such an unwarranted accusation.
     
  3. Zook

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    REALITY AND REAL LIFE CALLS THAT POST A BUNCH OF BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)!

    As someone that has lived in black majority cities and neighborhoods my entire life, I can say categorically say that black crime is an epidemic due to blacks committing more crime than any other race.

    Anyone who has grown up in a black majority enviroment will agree with me. Even anti-racist *******s... although they'll blame it on something else.

    End of discussion. Your argument is ridiculous.
     
  4. Mr_Truth

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    The reader will note the utter desperation in Zook's post.

    I, too, lived in the inner city of Brooklyn, NY (the East New York section which is majority Black) and the Twin Cities. I have a law degree and worked for many years in law enforcement or in writing appellate cases. Whether you like what I write or not, I will back up everything I say with links or books on the subjects we are discussing. Get used to it because more, much more, is to follow.
     
  5. Zook

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    I don't care what propaganda you post. Real life experiences and reality is what's important. Black crime rates are a freaking epidemic all over the planet. Even in countries where there's nothing but blacks.

    The only desperation here is in your bizarre insistence on defending animalistic behavior with excuses a 6-year-old wouldn't even buy.
     
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    Mr_Truth, you have to realize that people of color commit more crimes, so they are profiled not because they are just black or latino, they are profiled because of these disturbing criminal statistics among them.

    Since criminal statistics are high amount them, that means that probability of firstly encountered black or latino can be a criminal - is high.

    So, criminal statistics are leading, determining factor, not race.

    And it's a strange logic - if you know that you are profiled, why then you would want to commit more crime?! Rather, you will stop thinking about committing more crime, because you realize, that you are profiled and you would be easily stopped for checking on every corner - your gun will be taken, your drugs will be taken, etc. Thus, I agree with Zook that your links are clear propaganda.

    A clear example of true profiling would be if some race has a low criminal statistics and police still keeps stopping and searching them for unnecessary reasons, as described in your link.

    Right now they exploit a "race card" . They use their race to get around and avoid being caught, by accusing others in profiling and discrimination.

    In addition to Zook's post, I want to mention that there are cities in US, or parts of them, where even cops are afraid to go. And if they do go, most of the time they have black cops. I've seen that in Oakland, CA. It's done on purpose to avoid profiling accusations or maybe white cops are simply don't want to be targeted there.

    Take a look at the article Ruins of Detroit. Detroit is predominately black as well as many other places described there.
     
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    What would this Mr. Truth say about profiling young Middle Eastern men at airports by the TSA for having turbins on their heads, long filthy beards and wearing pajama clothing? While 9/11 was a wake up call for most Americans, it still wasn't quite enough for guys like Mr. Truth who feel that its not only unnecessary to profile a black race who have the highest proportional statistical rate of crime in our nation, but that we should just ignore the facts and criticize our cops for doing their jobs in getting that slime off of our streets.
     
  8. Zook

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    "The biggest reason why there are higher crime rates for Blacks is because of selective enforcement of the law."

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    Sounds like something someone who hasn't met a lot of black "people" or experienced real life a lot would say.
     
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    I read Freakonomics, the authors are clearly libertarians who have no concept of law enforcement. They live in an echo chamber of self congratulation, and ignore stunning facts - like how 12% of the nation's population (blacks) commit 49% of its murders.
     
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    The Univeristy of Minnesota's Humphrey School of Public Policy did research on the matter of crime and selective enforcement of the law. It determined that Whites commit the majority of the crime in this state but account for only 50% of those arrested due to selective enforcement of the law. If I had time I'd give you a link but there are plenty of links available in Google on the subject if you wish.
     
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    What is the cause of the high Black crime rate? Breakdown of the Black Family.
     
  12. Mr_Truth

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    Well, at least you admit they are not liberals. ;)
     
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    Interesting - then how do you account for the fact that white collar crime is almost exclusively White in this society?

    White families are largely stable though there are high incidents of illegitimacy and divorce as well.

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    http://www.nw3c.org/research/national_public_survey.cfm

    ''the annual cost of white collar crime to be between $300 and $660 billion''
     
  14. Mr_Truth

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    You evidently did not read my earlier post in which I indicated that I lived in East New York, Brooklyn, have a law degree and have done some legal work in my long life.


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    You might pose that question to the forum's many libertarians.
     
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    1. Violent crime and white collar crime are different.

    2. The white family is breaking down too.

    3. Look to the East Asian and South Asian family as a model.
     
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    Well, this logic is ridiculous. This means that white neighborhoods are war zones and 50% of them get away with crimes. Then why property value is always higher in white neighborhoods and many times lower in black??? Then whites, seeing a lot of crime around themselves and seeing that 50% of the criminals get away due to "selective law enforcement" would want to move to black neighborhoods, instead of running away from blacks.

    Todays news for you for Oakland, CA. Pretty typical.
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8530305

    I think you've never been in a black neighborhood. I personally have a few friends who were attacked and beaten by them in Oakland.
     
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    What excuse could a person have, as a moral and ethic, for committing crimes if they could not claim to be in official poverty?

    By simply solving for poverty, we could let the poor fend for themselves and exercise that form of individual liberty in our money-based, mixed-market, political-economy. Remaining poor on an at-will basis is not usually considered a rational choice.
     
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    Asian criminality for the most part is limited to illicit gambling, fraud, tax evasion and other non-violent, white collar crimes that Caucasians supposedly have a monopoly on.
     
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    What excuse could a person have, as a moral and ethic, for committing crimes if they could not claim to be in official poverty? In my opinion, we could be engendering better morals and better ethics, by simply eliminating official poverty in our republic via market friendly means.
     
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    Take Black children out of any dysfunctional culture and put them into a functional culture, and Black children will do better. I was kept in church in my teenage years. I was a rather depressed, bitter teenager but if I had not been kept in the church, I could have fallen into a very dysfunctional culture. I lived around alot of "rednecks" and got picked on by them. I could have descended into violence gone to prison. However, I didn't. Being kept in church, keeping up with school work, it kept me out of crime.
     
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    Sure they will do better than back in the projects, but they will still lag behind whites and Asians.
     
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    How? If a person is raised right, to take education seriously, to take one's own life seriously, that person will do alot better.

    Given the fact that Black people would do better if removed from any forms of dysfunctional culture, what incentive would a Black person have to stay in the projects?

    By the way, what is your end goal? What do you want?
     
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    We both agree, blacks do better when they are removed from their urban jungles and bussed out to the 'burbs. However statistically they still lag far behind their white and Asian compatriots, even after the "fresh start". Over 100 years of science proves that this spacial shortcoming is purely genetic.
     
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    If Blacks are so stupid as you would try to perpetuate, then explain Dr. Charles A. Drew, Clarence Wigington, Lloyd A. Hall, Guion Bluford.
     
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