so you DON'T believe in the theory of evolution! ok! men that screw around, in real life, are not as respected as men that stay true. That may not be true for celebs or politicians but for the average person, a married man that is known to be true to his word is far more respected than a man that or is known for sleeping around on his wife. So you're little tirade about women being allowed to be like men is null and void. in real life, anyone male or female that sleeps around is thought less of. You just hear more squacking from the feminists because men understand this and don't whine about it. They accept the consequences of their own actions. They don't expect to be treated just like the honest guy.
I am very happy that I am not married to you if you view women this way really and are not just lashing out. My husband seems to still be very interested in me, in spite of the cancer that scarred my breasts and took my childbearing ability away. I hope sincerely that he doesn't see me as a 'dried out husk' because I still love and desire him...not a day goes by that I don't thank God for bringing him into my life and I try really hard to show him that.
What kind of women are sluts? I guess my answer would be ... go ask your Daughter, Wife/Girlfriend, Mother or Grandmother and see what they would tell yea ...
What are you talking about? Moderata Fonte 1555 -1592. She was a writer. She died while giving birth to her fourth child. Show the woman a bit of respect. Times were harder then. Utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from you. Did you live in the 1500's to have a go at the woman who wrote the piece I quoted? How utterly impossible it must have been for women then. The lib response... blah blah... and blah... It is a great quote but you turn it into a petty ugly self-serving whine... no surprises there, I guess... She is actually saying that the men should be blamed as well for "sin"... because the women always are. You completely misrepresented the quote, you didn't understand it, and you just wasted a great quote with your PETTY NONSENSE.
Once more, what are you talking about? Please tell how "whistling" you equate with "spread her legs"... Do you see the word "whistling" in the quote and immediately think "spread her legs"? Is that how your mind works? Good grief.
...unless being responsible requires birth control or abortion . Then women are not to be responsible and should be forced to bear children while the man walks off to impregnate the next victim. Lower? You're assuming there is something wrong with doing what comes naturally. That is a possibly religious, control freak moral judgement. It's none of your business what women choose to do and they don't have to even consider those standards. The day of the censuring judge mental matriarch is over and guess what. The world didn't end when women took control of their choices, regardless of all that curtain twitching prophet of doom crap. Speak for yourself there. Personally I was thinking if Lord Lyttlebrain opened his legs, I'd aim my steely boots right at his knackers and leave a memorial there for him to contemplate at a later date, when he's considering telling his wife to shut up and put up. Have you noticed men who sleep around have great big flapping mouths full of embellishment? How is responding to posts a tirade? You're talking bollocks as usual and it is a fact that women are subjected to worse than men for doing the same and that is an inequality perpetuated by judgmental old fundies who view independence and equality a threat to the very cosy life they have managed to con men into letting them live. We have an in-forum expert already... Not all of them, fortunately.
You really are missing the point. It doesn't matter who's fault the divorce is, the fact that children raised by single parents have worse outcomes than children raised in 2 parent homes. Society can tolerate a few, but what happens when most people come to adulthood damaged because they were raised by single parents?
YOU are missing the point! The REPUBLICAN MEN seem to blame the women for "single parent households" because "women initiate the divorces". The responsible person who needs legal authority to get help and do the day to day raising of the children is NOT the person "initiating the divorce". They women are the people trying to deal with irresponsible partners who are FAILING their irresponsibility. In fact, if a a marriage partner is derelict in their duties in the raising the children, the responsible partner is REQUIRED to file the divorce in order to start getting help, support, and /or legal rights to manage the children lives responsibly. Which, MUCH more often than not, is the FATHER who is FAILING in his duties for the children as a father. YET NOT ONE WORD of blame for MEN is raised in the HAIL of BLAME for WOMEN! Just why is that?
Sorry, to tell you, injest, but that statement is perfectly consistent with everything he has posted on this site. And it is why "Conservative Principles" are such a joke! Conservatisim, as it is practiced these days, is NOTHING but a cover for this kind of self serving garbage.
Not necessarily. What good does it do the kids to be raised in a dysfunctional, angry and violent home w/2 parents always at war w/each other? It's better for kids to be from a broken home than to be raised in one..... to be subjected to anger, violence and living in fear on a daily basis is what damages the kids and sets them up for unhealthy relationships in their own lives. They don't know any other lifestyle and they become a product of their environment..... Believe me, kids are a lot better off w/just one parent who is stable and can focus on good parenting b/c she - or he sometimes - is happy w/their life of having peace of mind...... that's why we have women's support shelters....... For centuries some women have raised their kids alone thru death or divorce and many were successful in raising good, solid, productive, caring people.....
I would be curious on some studies on that, comparing the outcomes of children of divorce against children in a violent household that stayed together.
I wasn't blaming women, and I'm not sure who was. But you are with out a doubt blaming men. I'm interested in the effects of single parent raised kids on the broader society, but to you, this is personal. Maybe you should get counseling.
Well, that's fair, but for myself, I wouldn't need to look at studies when it comes to what's best for the kids and a dysfunctional, unstable, angry home-life isn't it.... Mike, what's the point of a father being in the home when he's not a father to his kids? There's no father/child relationship, no communication b/t them, unless it['s anger/violence - no nothing except the kids living in fear of him.... and the same goes for the women who should never have had kids. One of my closet friends grew up in a home w/both parents & 7 siblings - her father was a violent drunk and all of them, including their mother was scared to death of him. Every Xmas was the same scene - when the gifts were put under the tree, he'd come stumbling home, drunk, as usual, pick up every gift and smash it against the wall, grab the kid who was the closest to him and start beating the kid for no reason - one time he got his gun and shoved it right against the head of one of the youngest daughter's saying he was going to kill her....... horrific crap like this and even worse goes on and mom & dad should stay together 'for the sake of the kids'? I don't think so....... how my friend turned out to be such a great person is beyond my comprehension. When she graduated from HS, she was so anxious to get out of that house & no decent jobs were available where she could support herself, so she joined the Army, which was a good learning experience for her....... yrs later when she & her siblings heard their dad died, no one cared and didn't attend the funeral. That's what he did to them....... There's a lot of sad stories out there about the abuse of kids from a sick, violent parent and they were forced to live w/him/her. Waaaay back in the olden days, what went on in someone's home - beatings, drunkenness, incest, etc. wasn't talked about, but now it is - thank God..... Forcing kids to live in a violent, angry home kills the kid's soul, self-esteem, causes psychological and often physical damage..... but if the kid(s) is left to the stable, loving parent who loves, nurtures and protects them, the kid(s) will flourish....
Any child being raised by a divorced parent IS being raised in a broken home. What makes you think most divorced parents have peace of mind? Because divorced women have peace of mind?
Why do most people divorce? Because they're happily in love and life couldn't get better for them? A child(ren) being raised by a divorced parent who ended a bad marriage is not being raised in a 'broken' home, but a stable one w/NO fighting, chaos and misery for all. Sure, the parents are divorced. That does not destroy a kid's life, but improves it when the parents can no longer live together and provide a peaceful, stable homelife for the kids and themselves....... It's also a fact that when the parent raising the kids are happy - or at least has some peace of mind, the kids are happy or at least they also have peace of mind.... is that a bad thing?
Not in the case of a wife and kids being trapped in a home of violence and anger...... There's only one choice - get out of it.
Considering how many women and children in such a home wind up dead, I would say that it is usually a good idea for the mother to take the kids and bug out.
You do not need to see studies of the implications of violence on women and children. Severe pyschological trauma... lifelong trauma in many cases. The close to ultimate desecration / betrayal. The effect of violence on little children is devastating. Mental illness in little children who are beaten and abused is common. Violence in the family home is tragic and devastating. Once violence begins in the family home, it tends to continue, and often escalate. It is toxic, frightening, shocking...
I find it incredible that anyone would equate a divorce or having only a single parent to abuse. Some people have truly lived sheltered lives. As stated the psychological damage of an abusive household on a child effects them through life. The stress of living constantly in fear is very harmful for the children as they never know when or what will set off the abuser. If the children are lucky they have at least one good parent that eventually pulls their head out of their ass sees the priority is the children and leaves. The word slut has different qualifiers for everyone. It may be something arbitrary like a number, a way someone dresses, the way a woman smiles, etc. It is often used to keep women chaste, and seeing how there is no equivalent for males I don't take much salt in the word.