What the?......QANTAS

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  1. Wizard From Oz

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    The countries who have been leaching off our foreign aid money will now be servicing our airline - what else needs to be known? Maybe if our foreign aid money was used to support QANTAS; Australian jobs would not be lost to cheap foreign workers.
     
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    Is it just me, or does that Alan Joyce sound and appear like he doesn't have enough intellect to wipe his own bum clean? Why do Australian businesses in control of Australian politicians always have to employ incompetent foreign CEO's that end up trashing the Australian business? Wake-up Australians. Remember Telstra, with Sol at the helm. LOL Its starting to seem like Australian politicians are deliberately employing this foreign idiots as CEO's to trash these Australian owned companies, so the Government can sell them off.
     
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    Interesting seeing how Virgin so blatantly laid blame to the Carbon Tax.

    I heard today that the Lib's are trying to get through a bill to remove the Carbon Tax on airlines since its costing them so much ($100mil a year!?)..... I wonder if the ALP will support that [rollseyes]
     
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    How much are the astronomical leases levied on the airlines by the now all privatized airports contributing to their losses? Once upon a time, before Labor sold them, airports were public transport infrastructure, now they are privately owned money making machines that are ripping us and the airlines off.
     
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    Could qantas have priced themselves out of existence? They charged astronomical prices compared to other carriers. I had never flown Qantas solely based on price! Domestically I used Jetstar but what is their role with qantas as the parent company! Was management stupidly relying on their longevity and reputation alone??
     
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    Virgin are being a little tricky I reckon. They registered a loss in profit but acquired Skywest by the same amount as their registered loss! The CEO is not worried about the carbon tax he is simply attempting to build a rapport with Abbott! In other words he is brown nosing to ensure they aren't forgotten in any deals made!
     
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    You forget they are in a war with Qantas and this war has made Extra ordinary bad moves by Qantas management which has now culminated in the situation of today. The board now has no other option to back this management as the company is in such bad shape nothing will save them fast enough.

    It actually amazes me that people look past the poor acquisition of fleet, the attempt to fill the skies with plans on routes that Virgin fly by double the planes. THEN complain that poor fuel economy of a fleet they purchased is an issue not of their making... OF course the carbon tax which is designed to add cost to all has detrimental effect.

    Jobs in Australia will fly overseas due to the costs of doing business and while people want to ignore the realities of the situation they are only deluding themselves that Qantas problem can be solved with simple government intervention... BUT the ALP obviously wants to remain in total ignorant bliss about this situation.
     
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    Yes, I agree. Its goodbye our National carrier. These mongrels who caused this should be hunted down and stoned out of the country. Not saying much about Australia for not having its own National carrier, considering its now only small African countries that don't have one. :roflol:
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:
     
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    I dunno, having to spend $100mil every year on a new tax bought in by the ALP (carbon tax) would have to hurt the bottomline of an airline. The Lib's want to scrap the Carbon tax for airlines which sounds good, and split foreign ownership rules across domestic and international so that we get the best of both worlds. It just seems like the ALP is wasting time again and more concerned about causing problems - didn't they do enough of that when they were in power.
     
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    I suggest the carbon tax is a red herring as far as QANTAS is concerned. All airlines in Australia would have to pay it equally. They can just up the prices by a few %. They are not really in competition with other forms of transport as the cost of an airline ticket is far more than the alternatives.
     
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    What!! No... QANTAS has different regs about its ownership and employement which limit its access to foreign money and workforces like the other airlines, which change the capacity it has to compete with other airlines. The ALP adding stupid things like the Carbon tax for no benefit just make it harder for things like QANTAS to compete. Then add Union's into the mix and the ALP are short sighted loons destroying the nation.... but apparently its all the Libs fault.

    Lol Dom, you just 'like' anything pro-ALP haha :alcoholic:
     
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    You wonder why Qantas IS losing money if you lived in the bush. A round trip to the nearest capital city from where I live is about $850 and the flights until recently have been chockers with FIFO staff from the mines. Mines are cutting back so a LOT of regional airlines are going to feel the pinch
     
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    The carbon tax has nothing to do with the regulations that govern QANTAS. As you have not been able to make any decent argument I will assume that my argument is good.
     
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    Air New Zealand and Qantas were in an almost identical situation, but the New Zealand government and the CEO working for Air New Zealand found a solution to their problem without having to embarrass themselves and prove incompetence by bankrupting their National Airline Carrier, like the incompetent Australian government has done, alone with that fool Alan Joyce.

    Maybe its time time Australians started hiring New Zealand CEO's and New Zealand politicians, as they seem to have the competence to manage their companies without resorting to bankruptcy & fire-sales of their national assets.

    Its a shame on Australia to think we cannot even afford to keep our own National Airline carrier without the intervention of of losing it completely, or resort to foreign ownership - just what can we afford to keep without selling it off to the highest bidder on ebay.com these days?
     

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