What will sway your vote?

Haha!! Yeah, he is a little on the thin side! I bet ya he's a vegetarian or vegan!!

 

Of course I would have to stab you in the back, maybe Aussie in... You seem to have Gillard’s problem, can't get the message across blame everybody else for that failure. Blame the opposition for failures of your policy because their policy was not in your opinion up to scratch. Shoot the messenger because they could not give the message you never gave them. Have people with vested interest to create reports you can implement as policy and pretend you know what they are talking about.

So yes, out of the job "for the good of the nation" and in with somebody who can give the message... LOL Sorry Aussie (no reflection on you or comparison to Rudd. I gather we can only use people mentioned)

 

Madame Speaker, I won't put up with interjections and certainly won't be supporting suspension of standing orders!!!! We are here to debate important issues regarding our nation! Please work with us Garry, we can't continue to allow menial points to deter us from the task at hand!

Lets keep the thread on track Garry, we tend to wonder off in our own worlds a little too much!

 

Well Slippery, that particular presentation didn`t work for Gillard, but she had "other" problems. So you might be ok. Why don`t we wait & see how Kev`s, "mummy just caught me having a crank" persona works. It seems to appeal to TV, so Kev might be on a winner there?

Just checking the water, see if the fish are biting today??

 

( laughing uncontrollably ). Its TRUE, he does look like he's been caught having a crank ! Luv it.

 

And the Liberal policies are..........................?????


Sound of Crickets

Other than putting down labour what ARE the liberal policies?

 

If there was an alternative Liberal contender for the office of Prime Minister that may cause me to look at them, but as far as Abbott goes, he would set Australia back so far it isn't worth considering, as the polls indicate.

 

Oh Aussie,if your mummy catches you with your hand on things it shouldn't be on, you needn't tell us about it.

 

DV this is where people confuse me.

Abbott is the leader of a party, and the party come up with the policy and any other decisions that pertain to their direction and the direction they would like to steer the country toward. As has been argued in other threads as well as this one and from what we have recently seen, the individual means little.

So why is Abbott, the individual, the only reason you are not looking at the coalition ? As you have stated, you would entertain them as an alternative if he were not leader, so you obviously find that they have something to offer? Considering what has happened within the ALP these last few years, you must admit the individual means nothing. Surely it is not Abbott and Abbott alone that sets the party agenda ?

I can understand if people say " I wont vote for the Libs, I just don't like what they stand for", but when they make comments like, "If there was an alternative Liberal contender for the office of Prime Minister that may cause me to look at them", I get confused. I don't understand it, and I don't except it.

DV I don't mean to single you out, as many have done it, it's just you were the most recent. It is just something that confuses me.

It seems to me that some people are getting Abbott Hysteria. Personality Politics !

 

I know you love it when I talk dirty.

 

I know, but try not to worry. If Abbott sets us back to a surplus, we`ll just have to deal with it.

 

One of their policies, that you might be interested in. They`re going to pass a law that makes peeing standing up, or wearing a blue tie, highly illegal. Any transgressors will face mandatory punishment, of having "misogynist" branded on their forehead, then they`ll receive 40 lashes across the whatsername, with a steel tipped boot lace.

 

LOL... It never was on track, I don't think the state of Abbott's budgie smugglers or Gillard's inability to deliver a message and Rudd's Shots from the hip about Asylum-seekers are in the nation's best interest... LOL

 

Yep, this a clear indication of coalition policy! When you've got nothing, just say something stupid! Well it worked for phony and his bumbling baffoon of a shadow treasurer for a while I suppose!

 

Me as Albo? I'll have to work on developing a nasal voice....and get rid of the Croweater accent

 

LOL, the ALP / Greens haven`t got a patent on "saying something stupid", have they. We haven`t forgotten big Jooles`s misogyny tantrum, reminiscent of a sub standard copper, throwing his weight around, while hiding behind his uniform. The subject matter at the time (Peter Slippers hateful filth), actually put Gillard on the wrong side of the debate, for her to accuse Abbott as she did. Furthermore, as Gillard well knew, Abbott couldn`t answer her abuse in question time (like a weak copper hiding behind his uniform), but the real purpose of that exercise, was the ego trip of a public man bashing. Just one example of ALP members saying something stupid.

As for Wayne Swan having something stupid, or Craig Emmerson, etc.. etc..., no shortage of examples of their stupidity, as with most of the rest of the party of union lawyers.

 

They have many policies, But as the ball is in your court as stated in the third post after you feigning insult and mock incense of what the thread was about (Apparently it was you’re thread to insult anybody you wanted without reproach). I decided you were just being the usual ALP hypocrite proclaiming you want to discuss important issues, you simply focused on delivering your opinion on candidate’s appearance and character. Even ignoring the only person who did raise a policy point in your own thread, YOU decided was for discussing policy... after 58 posts covering 6 Pages

So I have decided to withdraw

As obviously by now it has been demonstrated to be clearly untrue.

Unfortunately for your impatient, I do have other activities I must attend other than waiting with baited breath for your Oh so witty orotundity, so at times immediate response may be delayed.

Do you consider the ALP any better than the coalition in denigrate their opposite number? Think back about that, as that is the main reason Gillard could not get her message across, she was too busy telling everybody how good ALP policy and governance was compared to the coalition but actually forgot to give the detail of that policy and governance.

On a side a point of interest, Before Gillard became leader of the ALP. Gillard had a very good relationship with Abbott, to a point where many were becoming suspicious. Not hinting at anything, just pointing out how good it was, but the day after she stabbed she immediately went on the attack like a divorced woman. I wonder if it has destroyed the good private relationship they had before.

 

Sorry to confuse you slippery, but I honestly do not want that man to be the figurehead of my country. I know it is personality politics, but at the head, we need someone with not just the right policies, but someone who can get them across, not only to the cabinet, or to parliment, or to the electorate, but to business and social leaders and international interests.

The Libs do have some good ideas, some of which I believe that they will never get across the line. My main beef with Abbott is how he comes across, don't forget he will be the one to represent us. My beef with Abbott and his "way with words" goes way back to when he was Minister for Health, and working in health I had dealings with him and he is a tool.

When I do vote, I will look no further than who will represent me, whether they are Green, Labor, Liberal or independent will make no difference, it will be that they are fit to represent me and my values and the way I would like to see Australia head.

Yes my choice will be on one person only, my representative.

 

That's what worries me, the slash and burn that he will have to do to achieve that outcome, particularly when the deficit is not a real worry.

A friend of mine owes $200K on their home, now if they want to get themselves out of debt, they would have to sell their home, the residual would not be enough to buy another so they would have to rent, but they wouldn't be in debt, but they wouldn't be going ahead financially either, sometimes you need debt to be financially viable, ask most businessmen.

Of course Abbott and his crew will play with the fools brain to make them think otherwise, but I am no fool

 

Rather discuss Ad Hominems than issues? Typical of those of a liberal bent.

Mind you I do not blame you for not wanting to discuss policy when the liberal party's policies are buried in a 50 page PDF called "our Plan" which might be better titled "out pipe dream" or "promises we will never keep"
http://lpa.webcontent.s3.amazonaws.com/realsolutions/LPA Policy Booklet 210x210_pages.pdf

 

Yes the hypocrisy continues, with the arrogance of ignorance.
You were asked what policy you wanted to discuss but what is it you post…

Is this the policy you wanted to discuss???? No…
How about…

Oh that policy was great to demonstrate the national interest…

I could go on, So you hypocrisy of

Apparently the only issue you want to talk about is your opinion of your bigotry and not the issues at all.

Talk about ad hominems and strawman, but now you can add much hypocrisy to your pretence of decency. After all, credibility has not risen from you last great effort… LOL

 

It is foolish to underestimate debt, particularly when future income is uncertain. In fact, it`s idiotic.

 

Just to be playful.

Are you not indebted to a landlord if you pay rent ? Once you sign a lease you are indebted to the agreed periodic payments until the expiration of said lease.

 

Well, I guess you`d be OK, if you got paid enough to pay the rent, for sitting around on your arse while someone dug up your land lord`s back yard. Then again, I suppose one could get a job?

 

Right, it time to get rid of banks and bonds! Debt must become illegal and should be retrospective to be fair to everyone.....incarceration the penalty! Most Australians are guilty of this heinous crime, therefore must fullfill this sentence! Australia could be one big penal colony once again!