When a woman spreads her legs she signs an unwritten contract...

WEll not to the immoral….but to those who recognize the life in the womb…it has. How many have been killed since 1973?

 

this is only true if life is some how 'special'.

what makes life more special than non-life?

the reality is, nothing does. life is just a term associated with a characteristic.the only death that is possible is the death of the universe.

 

Having a heartbeat is surely requisite for a living human to be said to exist. After all if ones heart stops for any length of time one is clinically dead.
This is not the only criteria however. With no significant brain function the entity is not a living human which is why I talk of sentience.

The reason a woman should be allowed to abort is because preventing her from doing so "by law or other means of coersion" is an unjustified violation of her freedom, liberty and so forth.

If the state can randomly violate individual rights and freedom with no justification .. then liberty and freedom do not really exist.

Some claim "what about the rights of the unborn Child" but this argument does not apply to the early stages of pregnancy because it has not been shown by those making this claim that a child exists during this time period.

At conception there exists a single human cell.

What legitimate justification exists for the claim that this single cell is "a human/unborn child" ?

 

I have never heard anyone claim that there is not "life" in the womb. .. Certainly no one who has any knowledge of biology at all would never claim this.

A heart cell, blood cell and so on is "human life" .. but so what ? This is not justification for the claim that this life is " a child .. unborn or otherwise"

 

How many people have been killed in cars or by guns,,,,,,,,,,,?

 

80 Americans die every day from gunshots, and three times that are injured, yet those who support this carnage cavil at a woman's right to rid her body of a few unwanted cells.

 

This shows your ignorance on the topic. You have no clue about fetal development….your not worth the bother.

 

That is not the topic…..quit running. I said how many have been killed by abortion. You pro-aborts never can answer a question without another one attacked.

 

How many human cells have been killed by abortion ? Who knows and who cares.

50 to 70 Billion cells die each day in the average human adult .. what are you suggesting here .. that we have funerals for each one ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis

 

I don't think it's that they don't care at all. But "women's rights" trumphs any and every other issue, even murder, as we can also see with how feminists have been fighting for the right of the woman to kill her man that physically abuses her, even when the abuse does not imminently threaten her life, even when the woman intentionally comes back to the man knowing he will abuse her, which will give her an excuse to kill him.

How many babies must be sacrificed on the alter of "women's options"?

 

Anders Hoveland said,

"I don't think it's that they don't care at all. But "women's rights" trumphs any and every other issue, even murder, as we can also see with how feminists have been fighting for the right of the woman to kill her man that physically abuses her, even when the abuse does not imminently threaten her life, even when the woman intentionally comes back to the man knowing he will abuse her, which will give her an excuse to kill him."

I can't give at least this group of pro-aborts even that benefit of the doubt. I do not think they care at all…quite the opposite. I think this is the difference between world views…and how those world views affect society…other human beings. This is the battle that is going on in WAshington…all over the country.

They don't see them as babies….they are just in the way…collateral damage.

 

A cell is different than a human being. Humans have cells. I am not going into some biology lesson we have argued over and over this issue. When the sperm meets egg….that is a new human life. Your statement is a joke.
And I know you don't care……THE WHOLE POINT ABOUT PRO-ABORTS. You people don't care…no compassion…nothing.

 

Approximately 2/3 of fertilized eggs fail to implant. Do you care? Nobody cares...

 

No she doesn't.

 

Once again there is the allocation of attitude and emotion to the opponent without evidence.

This is called a "poisoning the well" argument
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html

 

Women can console themselves with the fact that the contract isn't worth the paper it's not written on.

 

Falena please tell me why my comment was off topic?

 

hahaha oh man, misogyny eat your heart out.

No, their is no responsibility to go through with one's pregnancy. Abortion is an entirely fine choice. Deal with it.

 

If all women knew they can only fall pregnant during four days of their cycle, I think the problem of abortion
would be lessened. I do think however, that the right to abort is the right of the mother, and no-one else.

 

Do you know what we call women using the "rhythm method"?

Mothers


Both of the following sites show theoretical or "perfect use" as opposed to "typical" use
http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/summarychart.html
http://www.nfmcontraception.com/success_rates.htm

Unfortunately people being people - well, they get things wrong

 

Good gracious .. you have finally figured it out "a cell is different than a human being" .. a zygote a cell .. not "a human"

You finally figure out that a human is not a cell .. and not you figure you are qualified to teach Biology.

The term "human life" can refer to sperm, egg, any living human cell, a living human .. and so forth.

So yes .. the zygote is human life.

The problem with using vauge language such as "human life" is that it does not distinguish between life that we should protect and life that we do not.

The real question here is "does a living human exist at conception" ?

This is where lifers fail as they have no justification for the claim that the zygote is a living human.

 

No, the real question is whether a human life exists at 12 weeks, which is still in the first trimester by the way!

Abortionists are fond of claiming that the zygote is just a single cell, and that most abortions are done in the first trimester. What they neglect to mention is what the fetus actually looks like during this time:


fetus at only 12-weeks

Well, that may likely be true. But the vast majority of abortions are done on perfectly healthy normal babies. (and no, the mother's health does not have anything to do with it, except in very rare cases)
http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/266663-late-term-abortions-real-reasons-they-performed.html

 

Actually the real question is, what's so important about human life in and of itself? Lifers can never say - thus they have no case.

 

Perhaps we should euthenise the homeless and welfare recipients. Why not genocide too, while you're at it? We could create a master race, a worthy goal, especially since any cost in human life is not worth considering.

If human life is not important, then a woman being forced to endure a little inconvenience for a temporary period of time should be of no consequence, right?

 

Can you please answer my question. Here it is again:

what's so important about human life in and of itself?

If you answer this, I can then answer your questions. Then you can answer mine, then I'll answer yours and so forth.

I have a feeling you cant answer it.