When is an abortion NOT an abortion? Focusing on two weeks post conception

Those laws have to do with civility in society and zero to do with morality as it should be.

My point was responding to someone who asked a question.

So far this post of yours is pretty silly. No such country as Red China. Nazi Germany is gone and Iran is a theocracy and is run by religious law.

 

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Just a pet peeve of mine...

Fetal homicide is not committed against a pregnant woman--it's committed against the fetus. The fetus is the injured party.

 

The killing of innocents has much to do with the fact that people who say they are anti abortion are so to protect innocent life. If they support war they are not about protecting anything. You seem to be infatuated by Nazi Germany is there a reason for this.

 

I am posting not spell checking a Doctoral Thesis. But I understand.

It certainly is committed against the pregnant woman who has made a choice against abortion. Her choice has been violated and this gives this fetus a significant quality. She is waiting for it to be born into a person.

 

Those who haven't the foggiest idea what morality is can certainly be expected to agree.

Who gives a damm?

I would expect someone of your mental capacity to think so.

Yes, I'm sure you consider Neville Chamberlain the protector of Britain, which would today be an ethnically cleansed German province had Churchill not been such a war monger.

Pure projection on your part, obviously.

 

Which one Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Grenada, Iraq...?

 

Where do you see that?

 

Morality is a non constant and therefore unreliable as a basis for law. There is consistency to what allows a society to function it certainly is altered by invention and new laws need to be made.

 

Please, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You might as well be an aboriginal rain forest dweller pontificating about quantum electrodynamics.

 

I certainly know that morality is in flux. It changes from society to society. You are locked into the idea of morals as a constant and they are not. They change along with the times and the people and the people in power.

 

Yeah, I get it. You "know" that because you are utterly clueless as to what morality is to begin with. You're comfortable thinking it's just rules and regs made up by people who are no better than you, which enables you to think of it as nothing special; and you either don't know or don't care that such a view of morality is perfectly and inextricably interwoven the idea that might makes right. Thus, you render yourself incapable of understanding anything that has bearing on the subject of abortion, or on any other issue that involves human nature. The best you can do is to be an exponent of lies, whether manufactured by you or by others.

 

You really think morality is a constant. How foolish. How similar are the morals in the US in 2011 as in 1911? That allow should tell you how much morals change.

 

And the woman isn't injured? Is she not important?

 

Different laws deal with that.

 

If the woman has not made the choice to abort, she intends to see it develop to birth. Any harm brought to that fetus that ends that possibility is fetal homicide and should be treated as such. This in no way changes any thought I have on abortion in fact n way it reinforces the woman's independent right to choice.

 

You don't have to think when you know. And I do.

Morality hasn't changed in the US or anywhere else, only the respect for it by certain people.

It just tells me again what I already knew, which is that you have no idea what the Hell you're talking about.

 

How can you commit homicide on something that is not a person?

I agree. The fact that abortion has been ok in the past does not mean it will be ok in the future. Slavery was not considered immoral at one time either.

 

Untrue and you are wrong. Morality changes constantly. Your personal morals may stay the same, but those standards within a nation are ever changing as people grow and expand. A woman who lived in 1900 in the US was morally different than a woman in the 20's and they are all different then women are today.
So yes morals change in society. What you see as disrespect for morals is that your morals have not altered. You see that as disrespect as people do not hold the same standards you do. Good or bad it doesn't matter they morality has changed.

 

Damaging the fetus outside of the woman's choice takes away her option. If she has decided to carry the fetus to term she has decided that it will be birthed and a person. That said in such a case it is homicide. An abortion is a case where the woman has decided that she will not carry the fetus to term and birth.

If you notice the act is called fetal homicide and not murder as is the case for a person already birthed. If someone takes the life of an infant it is called murder. There is the difference.

 

Um...so? Thats not homicide.

So how can you commit homicide by killing a fetus if it is not a person?

LOL...last I heard the law does not allow the victim to define the terms used in the legal description. Has something changed?

 

Not in the least, and it's a damm shame that you're allowed to post these devilish lies here. For that matter, it's a shame people like you are allowed to vote.

 

Careful, you are unmasking severe closed minded bigotry.

 

Excellent point, You cannot commit homicide against a non person.

 

Here we have a textbook PMS post.
When they've got nothing, they cry bigotry. It is SO predictable.

 

It is not homicide it is killing.