Where do Americans find the time to rule the world?

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  1. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    With America's domestics such a disaster, one starts wondering where the nation's citizens find the time to also decide, so expertly, matters in the Ukraine and all across the Middle East.

    While it's busy work ruling the world and deciding the fates of people we are completely and utterly ignorant of, outside what we've gathered from Bruce Willis action movies, maybe we should take a glance in the mirror... just for a second.

    Americans are a people currently being conquered and colonized by illegal immigration from third world nations in a drastic demographics shift that will surely, as the natural order of things, result in the ultimate usurpation of political power.

    The borders have remained open for so long through two decades of heated political discourse that even complaining about it at this point is basically just comical.
    Americans are almost 20 trillion dollars in debt.

    American culture isn't declining. It has hit a state of near complete collapse. Many people don't even get dressed anymore. I actually see people lumbering around in public in their pajamas on a daily basis, and I'd happily direct you to a "The People Of Walmart" youtube video to further illustrate my point.

    High inflation, high grocery costs, high gas costs, high everything costs.

    Economy teetering on a tightrope.

    When you take it all in, the complete, sheer totality of it all, you might begin to ask:

    Where do you get the time to rule the people on the other side of the world, tell them how to live, and decide their national fate?

    So busy. You must be so very busy.
     
  2. Tram Law

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    Ah, general European generalization of Americans.

    First, only about a third to a fourth of all Americans vote. Most Americans just don't care about anything else and just want to live their own life without any form of interference from anyone.

    You really need to understand that about Americans, and stop judging us by what a few asshats in power do.

    Most of us are peons over here too and have no influence in our government, and often our asshat leaders will not do the will of the people as they follow their own greed or the greed of the wealthy elite who own them.

    Also, when it comes to us being in the world, a lot of the time we're invited or asked for help. Each spot that we're involved in must be scrutinized in an individual manner.
     
  3. Teutorian

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    When did the Ukrainian people or Iraqi people ask you to destroy their society, turn their country into a warzone, blow up their infrastructure, and kill their children?

    I understand Americans better than you do.

    So where are the neo-con internationalists that can explain where all this international wisdom comes from given the complete collapse of every last pillar of American society under their vigilant national stewardship?
     
  4. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Yeah the good ol' USA. The murdering evil world conquering bastards of planet Earth. The world would be so much better if we were gone.

    Too bad we're staying.

    Germany is the most fun place on earth to be stationed in our military as well. Literally not even being sarcastic. German pubs blow ours out of the water and the women are beautiful.
     
  5. Teutorian

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    So just hyperbole and no substantive explanations.
    I suppose we should just consider the war cries of America's neo-con internationalists little more than mindless babbling than?
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you tell us? You said earlier than you "understand American's better than we do"...You know..better than us Americans.

    What do you want us to say? We're sorry world we will remove our troops from all of your countries and go home and not bother anybody. Whats the point of this thread? You simply bashed the US in the form of rhetorical questions and are asking for an explanation as if anything any of us say will suffice.

    We all see what this is don't try to play ignorant and innocent expecting actual answers to your clearly baited questions.
     
  7. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    Also, two things:

    1. America is not neo-con foreign policy, and neo-con foreign policy is not America, so let's not confuse the issue.

    2. Actually, you're really not staying. White Americans will be a minority in about 30 years, perhaps even less considering the border and birth rates.
    So... really, the truth of it is, the world will soon find out what it's like without America.

    So I suppose you're wrong.

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    You're not understanding. You're just having a knee-jerk reaction.
    America is crumbling into dust before your very eyes, so where do you find the time and wisdom to look outward and make your internationalist decrees?
     
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    The disaster that is Iraq lays squarely on American politicians, and the American public as well. Ukraine on the other hand is completely the fault of the western euros, and where you get passing that buck on America is beyond me. Merkel and her fellow cronies where the ones who went poking around in Putins backyard solely for the benefit of the joke that is the EU. Merkel and her cronies where also the ones who. went scurrying with their tails tucked between their legs when Putin started flexing his military muscle, leaving the Ukrainians to sway in the breeze. Get your facts straight.
     
  9. Teutorian

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    I was talking about America's neo-con internationalist reaction, that wanted to essentially send the U.S. military into the Ukraine to stop the evil doer Putin.
     
  10. After Hours

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    A black conservative arguing with a white nationalist.

    Let me get my popcorn ready and watch this unfold. He thinks you're white, btw.
     
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    Not even the most ardent warmongering neocon advocated sending ground troops to the Ukraine to face off with Putin.
     
  12. Teutorian

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    Oh please. Everyone was throwing a fit that Obama didn't meet Putin with some variety of military response, and would push military response constantly right up until someone (journalist, forum poster) asked them flat out of they were crazy enough to want a war with Putin, then they would walk it back a little to just complaining about Obama's response, as if there was something else that could be done (like military intervention and sabre rattling.)
     
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    White Americans don't make America. Americans make America. Just because white people will become the minority doesn't mean the country will automatically crumble.

    What you're saying is that we have enough problems to deal with in our own country and we need to focus on them first. I agree to some extent. However we can do both. There is a mentality is America that is changing for the worse and much of that is the reason why our country is is trouble. Abandoning our foreign policy isn't really going to do much to fix the crippling mentality plaguing our country.
     
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    When's the last time two nations with enough nukes to wipe out mankind a hundred times over faced one another in open war? Oh wait never. There's nothing of strategic value in the Ukraine for America to fight over. There was never a chance of this thing you've dreamed up in your head, of ever happening.
     
  15. Teutorian

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    These are just words. It's like saying "people are people," but people are not people, are they? The differences are why a tsunami can strike Japan and the Japanese people will remain orderly and civilized, because they are truly civilized, and why a Hurricane hitting New Orleans can turn an American city into a Somalian looking pit of chaos.

    America was America in the 1950's, too, and it's called America still today, but 1950's America and 2014 America are two entirely different nations, and so will it be in 50 years - unrecognizable.

    You can do both? If history and REALITY are any indication, you can do neither.

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    Of course not, because it would be so incredibly stupid. Now tell this to the neo-con forum babblers.
     
  16. Brewskier

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    Zimbabwe and South Africa seem to disagree with you.
     
  17. After Hours

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    My buddy Nightmare is going to learn the hard way that his conservatism won't help him in this thread.
     
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    Americans don't realize they are hypocrites when they say "we can't control what our country does in own name". Remember when it was often that Americans told Muslims to speak out against the extremist muslims and to report muslims they think are extreme? As if these peaceful muslims are responsible for the extreme ones.

    Americans just have no clue. All they know is their tiny bubble.
     
  19. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Katrina was a disaster I will agree with that. However that is one instance. I lived in Florida for years and we got hit with hurricanes all the time. Especially back in 2007 when it was open season on Florida. We handled it just fine. As with Hurricane Sandy, as with the multitude of tornadoes we get hit with, as with the brutal winters of the past 2 years. Don't use one example to say we as a nation are incapable of helping ourselves when disaster strikes.

    You are absolutely right that the America of today is a different nation than it was 60 years ago. As is your nation. Things change. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Right now some things have changed for the better here and some things have changed for the worse. Thats probably the main difference between the 2 major ideologies in the US, liberalism and conservatism. Liberals want the nation to keep changing into a new type of nation, better or worse is subjective. Conservatives want the nation to remain the way it is or was. Again for better or worse is subjective.

    We can do neither? Last time I checked I didn't see any German military bases outside of our cities. Or any other nations military partying it up over here. (Unless of course we are on some joint training program thing). Yet we have troops all over the planet. We have naval battle groups floating around the planet. Who else does that?
     
  20. Teutorian

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    So am I to understand that you're a "small government conservative" that wants a cookie because his political elite maintained a global Empire on the ashes of other nations?
    lol
     
  21. Brewskier

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    Could be worse. It could be like white liberals who are attacked in the inner cities. I wonder if getting out the words "but I voted for Obama!" would protect them, even if they had enough time to utter them?
     
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    LOL. A brutal winter in Florida is what we call your average early fall here. You guys gotta toughen up down there. Seriously.
     
  23. After Hours

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    Why should voting for Obama matter? I don't think any inner city thugs care about politics, let alone vote.

    This thread is still funny though, because it's a shining example as to why the conservative base as a group will never ever elect a black man as potus. Not going to happen no matter how conservative the black man is, or how much he panders. And some of them do pander, big time (see Allen West).
     
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    I doubt that.

    Herman Cain led his competitors prior to his sexual scandals coming to light.
     
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    Yeah, maybe a little neo-National Socialism would help...
     

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