Where's the Curve? = Big Science's huge FAIL

That's impossible. Try it with a kid's doll. Move it all around the flat circle of something representing the flat earth. Keep the dool's eyes facing the same point in space but move it anywhere on the circle while keeping its feet on the circle. The only way to invert the view of that point is to turn the doll's head upside down, and to do that with feet on the circle, you'd have to do a back bend, which then puts the head upside down (just like on the bottom of a round ball earth).

 

You're tripping, dude. Put a picture of a face in the center of the ceiling. Stand at one side of the room, looking towards the pic on the center of the ceiling, then move to the other side of the room. The face on the picture will be upside down.

 

Do you understand the Law of Perspective?

Stand at the end of a very long straight hallway, like at a hospital or a school. Notice how the ceiling and floor appear to merge towards one another as you look down the hall. You know you're on a flat plane, standing inside a building. Yet the ceiling appears to go "down" from your perspective. This is the exact same way the sun works as it travels around in a flat circle overhead.

If you were to watch a boat travelling away, going over the horizon and seeming to disappear, but then zoomed in on it with a telescope, you would see the entire boat reappear in your telescope.

Eventually, the boat would disappear, but only because its moving away on a straight flat plane and appearing shorter and shorter to you. The boat never goes over any curve, because no curve exists. There is also limited vision in any direction on the flat plane due to atmospheric moisture and other conditions, but it is indeed a flat plane.

Straight line Railroad tracks can also create the same visual phenomena.

 

You and I can't, on a flat plain of the earth, walk to "other sides" of the moon. It's simply not possible. You're talking about something akin to moving from one side of the moon to the other on your flat earth, which is impossible. No matter where you stand on it, if you face the same point in space, your perspective is the same with only incredibly minor changes due to your movement left/right or forward/backward. In the room you presented, it's easy to move your body from one side of the object to the other. That's not possible with the moon in space.

 

Then we could use a space telescope to literally see another continent on a direct line from the telescope to the land of the far away continent since the telescope would correct for that phenomena. Has anyone ever gotten a view of another continent from such a capable telescope, or is it possible?

 

I don't believe that's possible, due to atmospheric visual interference, and the fact that there would be a lot more light coming into the telescope by pointing it laterally across the earth, as opposed to pointing it into the dark night sky. I don't know of any telescopes capable of doing such a thing, and that may be be design. The telescope makers might not want people having such a device, or they may not be able to make one.

 

Are you saying we can't do my ceiling experiment on earth because the scale is too large for us to traverse and thus too difficult to get a solid observation, or are you saying we can't do it because the moon is in constant motion, relative to our earthbound perspective point?

 

Because the scale is too large. We'd simply be moving laterally while still looking at a very distant moon with a perspective relatively the same. On a ball, however, our view changes dramatically because, with feet pointed toward the center of the ball, our head literally goes upside down from north of the equator to south of it, such as from the central US and central Australia. Within a room it would be like moving two inches in any direction and expecting the image to shift how we perceive it.

As long as our heads remain oriented to the same point in space from anywhere on a flat earth, we would see (relatively) the same image. But on a ball, that image flips over in relation to the orientation of our heads because it would be we who literally flip upside down depending where on the ball we are.

 

I cant believe people are still debating this flat Earth nonsense...

People do realize that pilots make their flight plans based on the curvature of the Earth?

If they made their plans based on a flat Earth they would fly into (*)(*)(*)(*)ing space...

 

Well, you should believe it. There's too many unanswered questions to put this to sleep.

And no, pilots do not calculate for curvature, nor do any of their onboard systems.

There's something called a Gyro on every commercial and military plane and boat in use today. The gyro is set to a perfectly flat horizontal plane and is not influenced by any force known to man, and always stays flat and level, even on airplanes that loop upside down in airshows.

 

you are 100% wrong

 

Nope. 100% correct.

And honestly I'm enjoying being right and knowing that you know that I know I am!

This feels really good to me and it comes at your expense, which is a spectacular bonus!

 

No you're not right...

As a matter of fact I think you're trolling...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope

Notice how the "gyro" is round - not flat... It's round for a reason...

 

The reason its round is so that it can always freely rotate and adjust back to showing what is LEVEL.

Autopilot works off of the Gyro.

Autopilot was around YEARS before GPS.

You're looking super desperate at this point, Mr Nick.

 

LOL....

Sorry it's round because the Earth is round - this is why the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing works lol..

The whole point of the gyro is based on the fact the Earth is round. One wouldn't need a gyro if the Earth was flat - think about that smart guy.

 

I have no idea where you're getting this delusion, smart guy.

The Gyro is set while the plane or other ship is docked and stationary.

Then, once that plane or ship starts traveling, the original setting point that was set up is what is used to keep the plane/ship LEVEL, relative to that flat setting point which was set up when they weren't in motion. The thing is a ball so that it can flow freely inside its chamber and always show us what is level. That's how AUTOPILOT works.

Duhhhhhh.

 

Yes, it keeps the plane level because the Earth is round.... If the Earth was flat a plane wouldn't even need a gyro...

If a plane didn't have a gyro they would either a) fly into space (or so high that it falls out of the sky) or b) would crash into the ground...

That is the whole point of the instrument..

 

Also, apparently you have never been on a commercial aircraft.... They fly at 35-40,000 feet for a reason - because the Earth is round and it's a safe altitude for their speed...

Of course faster jets - military jets - fly even higher because they're going faster hence more of a risk of colliding with the Earth or flying into space..

 

You're coming from the completely disproven assumption the earth is sphere.

That's why you're horribly wrong. Look at it from the correct starting point, and you won't be so outstandingly confused the way you are now.

 

Commercial planes of that size can't physically travel at high speeds close to the ground. We know this because of the entire "Pentagon getting hit on 9/11" lie. You're getting all twisted up.

 

sure they can

 

Are you insane?

You do realize we have cameras in space right now showing that the Earth is INDEED a sphere?...

It's a FACT the Earth is round and intelligent people have known this for 5,000 years, not only that but all of our communications technology is based on the fact the Earth is round...

You do realize that?

ALL technology that needs a satellite to operate relies on the fact the Earth is round...

IMO, I feel sorry for you if you really believe the Earth is flat...

Do you believe this because of religion or are you one of those way gone out there like Pluto conspiracy guys? (I happen to believe in aliens and other conspiracies but some people are out there)...

 

It makes perfect sense to me that you would believe in aliens, and believe in NASA. They're the ones putting the idea out there to validate the idea that space is something real that they can put "satellites" in. MOD EDIT - Rule 3
You cannot present one single authentic, non composite, non CGI image of the earth from space. Not one, dude. LOL

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Show me a commercial airliner going 500mph anywhere near the ground.

 

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Low altitudes for larger aircraft is the best environment for them to travel at high speeds....

The atmosphere becomes too thin the higher you go, hence doesn't generate enough lift for an aircraft that is dense and the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing will stall.

You need to go extremely fast the higher you go and you know what? passenger aircraft can only go so fast.. 5,000 feet would be highly ideal for a passenger plane as far as speed but extremely dangerous...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJliayH6co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywcjFzNU3yE