Which is worse?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Feb 16, 2013.

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Which would have been worse?

  1. being repeatedly molested and having your anus torn

    60.0%
  2. being ABORTED at 22 weeks

    40.0%
  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    So, you are in favor of legalizing child pornography? How is this different?
    Personally, if I was a little child, I would much much rather prefer just to have some pictures taken of me, than to be aborted in my mother's womb.

    You talk about exploitation. What do you call it when a woman terminates her own child for her sexual gratification? Because this is exactly what abortion is in many cases. To some women, unfortunately, an orgasm is more important to them than the fate of their unborn child.


    But you are okay with likelihood of being screwed in the head for the rest of your life after you get an abortion?
    (many women don't realize what they have done until right after it actually happens)


    wouldn't want to ruin any children's lives, WOULD WE ?!?
     
  2. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Why are you resurrecting this dead thread? Dx
     
  3. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Anders Hoveland never made any statements like that.
     
  4. Fugazi

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    I'd suggest you do a search on his name and you will find you are wrong.
     
  5. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Which specific threads?
     
  6. Fugazi

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    Tell me why do you insist others do all your work for you.

    You ask people to dispel a negative without offering anything to support your own assertion
    You can't be bothered to even do a google search on items presented
    and you want people to go and find things that are easily obtainable for you.

    Here is a hint .. go and look yourself, it might even educate you a little bit.
     
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    I actually have found some racist threads which were posted by Anders Hoveland, but I can't find those specific ones in which he made those specific comments about abortions.
     
  8. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    I posted links to a number of comments from him about DS newborns.
     
  9. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Yes, but I am talking about those other comments of his.
     
  10. JohnnyMo

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    This is one of the most bizarre threads I've seen on this site.

    OP, give yourself a hand

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  11. Fugazi

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    Look a little harder
     
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    Dumb question Anders....their answer would always be kill in the womb.

    I had to take a break the past few weeks...hoping that when I started up again...the air might be cleaner and the stench would not be as bad. I was wrong....

    Things never change with the pro-abort position, it is forever cloaked in blood.
     
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    The pro-choice position is always cloaked in playing word games and using circular arguments and going off-topic and derailing these discussions, because they know that they are so wrong, but they're just in denial, so they try to prove their false beliefs right. Haven't you also noticed this?
     
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    Getting molested by a sexy teacher would be nice. Not really into getting my anus tour open. So, abort me at 22 weeks or 9 months..... I do not want my anus torn
     
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    Always cloaked...always. How many have the guts to just say...hey I think women should be able to KILL at any time because it is their right to choose what they want to do with their bodies?
     
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    They always try derailing these discussions. Here's some examples of this.

    Some pro choicers keep accusing me of wanting to punish women for sex whenever I state that women shouldn't kill their own babies just because they don't like the consequences of sex.

    Do you have some other specific examples of how pro choicers try to derail the discussion whenever you try to debate with them?
     
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    You're damn right.

    Of course I'm going to choose the route where I feel no pain, no awareness, nothing at all, because I never existed over the despicable horrible act of being molested, and in the way described by the actual poll "being repeatedly molested and having your anus torn".

    If I was aborted, there would have been no me. I would not be sad, happy, mad, anything. So yeah, I'll take that over traumatic events that will screw me up for the rest of my life and possibly turn me into the same type of monster that did the molesting in the first place.
     
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    Please.

    Let's not pretend it's always pro-choicers "derailing" the debate. There is more than one aspect of this debate and bringing up one does not mean you're running from the other.

    And your intent may not be to punish women, but that's moot, because your actions have the same effect. If I shoot a gun at you, even if I was shooting at the bird in the tree behind you, but I hit you instead, you're still dead. My intent is meaningless. I was taking actions that I knew could and sometimes would result in harm to you, but I did it anyway. That's what you're doing. You may not want to "punish" women, you just want them to endure the same consequences as if you were.

    I see.
     
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    They always appeal to the emotions, by talking about the woman's so-called bodily rights. Even Hitler used semantics and appealing to the emotions so that the public supported him.
     
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    The entire pro-life position is based solely on appeal to emotion.
     
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    That may very well be true, but even if that's true, so is the entire pro-choice position. We're all equals here. :cool:
     
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    I feel bad for you if you think that - plenty of people have been molested and gone on to live normal lives, in fact the majority of them do. The ones who become molesters themselves are a minority.

    Anyone who'd rather be dead than alive is in need of pity. But this shows the mindset of a lot of abortionists and probably causes them to undervalue human life.
     
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    The stench is definitely polluting the debate. Hide the cheese.
     
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    About the same amount of pro-lifers who won't admit that there real goal is to subjugate women and enforce a theocracy.
     
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    Really!!!

    Tell me how many pro-choicers you have seen parading outside clinics with pictures of (supposedly) abortions
    Tell me how many pro-choicers you have seen resorting to calling the opposition murderers, or loving abortion, or abortion being a pro-choicers aphrodisiac
    Tell me how many pro-choicers have you seen talking about children being murdered
    Tell me how many pro-choicers have you seen calling a woman who wants an abortion a slut

    The worst I have seen here from pro-choicers is to say pro-lifers are misogynists or rabid religious zealots.

    Which of the above is the ones appealing to emotions?
     

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