Which of the following women/young girls should be "allowed" to have an abortion?

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Which of the following women/young girls should be "allowed" to have an abortion?

  1. 14 year old homeless pregnant by mothers boyfriend

    5 vote(s)
    22.7%
  2. Married couple with 4 kids and no income

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  3. Woman who has been diagnosed as having an anencephalic foetus

    5 vote(s)
    22.7%
  4. Woman with severe mental health issues threatening suicide if pregnancy continues

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  5. None of the above

    2 vote(s)
    9.1%
  6. All of the above

    18 vote(s)
    81.8%
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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sex for pleasure is not the natural intention of sex it is natures way to coax humans into sex for procreation purposes
    natures intention of sex is procreation
     
  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look ! "SEX" does not have an intention. "Nature" does not have "Intention"

    Humans have "intention" . The intention of a human having sex is what that human is intending.

    Sometimes that human intends to have children. Most of the time that human is not intending to have children when having sex. Most of the time the intention of that human having sex is for pleasure.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you don't believe in evolution the process of a natural selection
    if sex didn't feel good if their wasn't any pleasure or drive to have sex people wouldn't be having sex there for no procreation there for no survival of the species
    natural selection made sex feel good because the ones that sex didn't feel good didn't have sex there for didn't survive as a species
    sex feeling good meant more having sex meant more procreation
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you creating straw men ?

    The intent of a human having sex is not always procreation.

    It is the intent of the human that is in question and not the "intent" of nature or natures purpose for sex.
     
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    None of the above.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    All The Above, just Common Sense.
     
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    Agreeing to the risk of pregnancy is in no way, shape or form agreeing to gestate and give birth if one gets pregnant. Just like agreeing to the risk smoking entails is not agreeing to not seek to have any resulting tumour(s) removed from one's body.
     
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    From the standpoint of law, sexual intercourse between people is the product of their human agency, not the product of natural forces, if a woman refuses to consent to sexual intercourse, it is not lawful for a man to impose himself sexually on her by claiming that he is a natural force. His imposition of sexual intercourse on a woman without her consent is the crime of rape, whatever may be our cultural attitudes toward the naturalness of heterosexual relationships.
     
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    The only time abortion is ok is if the mother's health is on the line. I guess I'm biased, though, because my "father" impregnated my mom when he was in his 30s and she had just turned 17. My mom's family kept pressuring her to abort me because of her age and I'm happy she didn't.

    As for getting an abortion because you can't "afford" to raise the child?

    Well, that's just plain selfish. If you knew you couldn't afford to have a child, you shouldn't have spread your legs so willingly. I honestly can't imagine someone would want an abortion because they decided they couldn't afford the child. Are there really people like this in the world?
     
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    So you think your mother owed you the significant sacrifice and risk that pregnancy, childbirth and child rearing entail? Why? Also, FYI, every pregnant woman's health is on the line.

    Referring to the option "Married with 4 kids and no income"? Yes, there are really people like this in the world, many of them, and yes, they spread their legs even though they can't afford a child. There is nothing selfish about the decision not to bring a child into a world of poverty and desperation.
     
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    If a couple is too horny and too dumb to use a condom or masturbate, that's their fault.

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  13. Bowerbird

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    'surviving - yes - living???
    and that is only because it was kept 'alive' ventilated for that entire period. THERE WAS NO BRAIN. And it was not the mother keeping it alive - The baby was in care the entire time - it was not looked after at home - if it were I am betting it would have not seen 2 years. Poor wee thing. This baby should have been palliated - there is such a thing as 'cruel and unusual punishment' and that is what that mother put 'Baby K' through
     
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    best you better inform yourself before you pull crap out your ass whithout knowing what the hell you are talking about

    [video=youtube;WMlVNFpzKNI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=WMlVNFpzKNI[/video]

    does Nickolas Coke look like he is hooked up to a ventilator?
    does it look like he wasn't taken care of at home?
     
  16. Bowerbird

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    Never been homeless eh? Well, actually neither have I but I have interacted with so many it makes no difference

    http://www.homeaid.org/HomeAid-Stories/69/top-causes-of-homelessness

    There are families out there living under the poverty line for those families sometimes there is little choice - abort or lose the home they live in. Choosing abortion is seldom easy but the lie that has been spread over the years is that women decide on a whim - somewhere between buffing their nails and choosing the new swimsuit
     
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    Different case - which is why I specified 'baby K' and mate I do know what I am talking about

    What is the ultimate outcome for these children? Did you listen to this video - 12 medications per day to attempt to prevent constant seizures ?

    BTW this is a typical case of bad reporting - the child is NOT a full or true anencephalic - as they most often have a skull deficit as well - he was a Microcephalic - or at least on the fine line between the two

    There is a difference

    Oh! And additionally- I do not tolerate bad behaviour - neither do the moderators - you have been reported
     
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    Why?

    And now I really want you to defend your decisions. Even the Catholic church will allow abortion for maternal health. Where you have a woman with severe mental illness (and who is either trying to cope with that without medication or risking foetal abnormality on medication) then you suddenly have a choice of losing one or both

    Difficult yes? This is why even the Catholic Church has ethical tribunals to examine some of the more 'murky' questions
     
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    Murky?

    Well I'll have to defer to the Catholic Church since you put it that way.
     
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    Murky - yes I have looked after women who have had abortions performed in a Catholic hospital. Usually the women were in extreme situations - diagnosed with cancer shortly after diagnosis of pregnancy, diagnosis of maternal health issues like pulmonary hypertension where continuing the pregnancy would be certain death.
     
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    You couldn't address my post so ran screaming in another direction, making ridiculous claims about what NO ONE ever said.........:)



    Soon enough you'll have me on the Ignore list when the questions and facts become too inconvenient :)
     
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    Does he look delighted to be alive?

    Does he look healthy?
     
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    Are you too dumb to know that condoms can and sometimes do fail?



    LMAO @ "slaughter and sale of human body parts through Planned Parenthood".
     
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    all of the above
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    So you are Pro-Choice.
     

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