White Pride

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by leftlegmoderate, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want to start a thread about black culture... we can do that. You will likely enjoy each of my posts.

    You want to talk about the superiority of the white race... you are a couple hundred years late.
     
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    No, we're certianly not alone in being conquerors, but we're by far the best. as of yet. And It's not conquest that I'm glorifying, more that it shows that we're the more powerful people than the others, and I can feel some pride in that. But also, it's our technological progress and you know, the west's general superiority in all fields. How can one not feel much better than everyone else? on a collective level that is.
     
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    ask the Viennese about gunpowder
     
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    Skin color is a pointless quality to have pride in.

    Nothing wrong with having pride in your heritage and ancestry though, in my opinion. However, your skin color is not your heritage.
     
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    Since you had nothing to do with the determination of your race, and since you did absolutely nothing at all to 'accomplish' your race (i.e., you did not work to achieve your race), what is there to be proud of?
     
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    I could give you a map with only iran, saudi arabia, china, japan, and korea NOT painted with the colours of the various white powers. suffice to say that that beats the mongols. But it's kinda unfair to compare race and nation like that. But the brits alone would win against the mongols, not by contagious though, but there maybe the russians would. or maybe not, I don't remember.

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    Yes it is! what is skin colour if not ancestry and heritage?
     
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    Two things... race is not limited to just "the color of your skin". There are genetic differences between the races. Second, are you denying that the overwhelming majority of the advances coming out of the US over the last 200+ years have been from whites?

    Why were there no ancient black philosophers? Why no ancient black mathematicians? Why did the advanced whites show up to find blacks and Indians still living in the stone age? If everybody is so equal and only the color of their skin is different, why didn't those groups advance at the same rate? Why aren't they advancing at the same rate now?
     
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    That same dopey argument can be made about heritage. Nobody can control where they are born, yet everybody in here is saying how OK it is to be proud of your heritage.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends. How swarthy can they be before you accept their accomplishments? Are we going blue eyed blondes... or... we taking the Italians... middle east...

    Really? You are... completely unaware of the Egyptians? Why were they so much more advanced than the rest of the world if it was not due to their superior genes? Mathematics? lol... they had a base 10 numerical system in 3000 BC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_mathematics

    Why is it... we STILL have no idea how so many ancient Egyptian monuments were erected?

    This is just silly.
     
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    It is wrong to have pride in anything that happened by accident of birth. Pride should be reserved for things that you achieved on your own power. Pride over race, nationality, etc is always wrong.
     
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    So I take it from this answer that you wouldn't say blacks and Hispanics have contributed just as much towards the innovations and advancements that you were referring to earlier?

    What race were the ancient Egyptians?
     
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    I didn't say anything about nationalities, only that all the inventors were Whites, every one. The last time I looked in the history books, Franklin, Edison, Ford, Tessla, Wright or any of the other American were not obvisously non-White. I don't know what part of the European gene pool that all the inventors came from, some from Norway, maybe. Maybe staying alive in their caves during the cold made them smarter, and better artists---for sure. From Japan and China or any part of East Asia we have a grand total of zero groundbreaking modern inventions.

    The Japs and Chinese spent most of the last 1,000 years staying isolated, killing off foreign people and sticking with their obsolete technologies like swords and wind powered ships. They may have discovered gunpowder, but weren't clever enough to develop a simple gun with it. Perhaps their zenophopic racism was one reason they were so backward. Wasn't till about 150 years ago did some of the Asians began to copy, not discover, Western technology. Asians have been great copycats, but not innovators in the past.

    It's much simplier to devolop a smartphone or flat screen tv from existing tech, than to invent the telephone and TV from scratch. Coypcats just don't amaze me, sorry.
     
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    the egyptians were black? I thought all north african peoples were arabic looking, and maybe even paler in ancient times. Looking at ancient egyptian art they definitiely don't depict themselves as black but rather that typical middle eastern colour. Also, they spoke a semetic language and I thus believe they were reltead to hebrews and arabs, and they're not black. That said, people down the horn of africa also speak such languages but I don't tink it's native to there, but rather introduced by people from the north. iirc.
     
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    Start here page 15.

    The ancient Greeks described the ancient Egyptians as black... with wooly hair.
     
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    The Library of Alexandria was considered the center of all knowledge in its day.


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    They were able to repel the superior white invasions? How is that? They did not "copy" but improve... and I don't think you have the first clue how many of our modern technologies were invented in Asian countries. The magnetic compass... the soundcard... universal serial bus (USB)...

    So... are you including the Semites and Arabs as "white people"? I am just asking... does your white pride include these peoples? The introduction of the null set was pretty important, in that all higher maths require it.
     
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    i'll be dam.ned. It would appear they were true negroes, real mulattos, to quote a quote in the text.

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    and it was built by greeks, when egypt was ruled by greeks and until it burned down while under rome's control.
     
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    But why is that something to be proud of?
     
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    why is it something not to be proud of? are mongols supposed to be ashamed that their people pwned all asia super hard, can't they feel that they actually were really awesome once? Should be not care that we were much more powerful than everyone else, and are still quite powerful?
     
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    Well that is just it... if you should feel "pride" in the actions of others, then you should feel "shame" for the actions of others.
    To be prideful of your good deeds, for instance, and feel no shame for your bad deeds... typifies hypocrisy, and builds bad people... the same rule applies to pride and shame of others.
     
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    China wasn't too impressive with the Boxer Rebellion, or fending off the Japs before WW2. Guess who China turned to for help?

    Japan was swept aside in Manchuria by the Russians (mixure of whites/asiatics) and surrendered quickly after that. Some think this was more of a factor than the A-bombs. Japs fought like cave dwellers in Iwo Jima and Okinawa for the most part, and only lasted a few months before being wiped out. Japan had the worst guns of any major power, and lacked vital creativity in designing new weapons.

    European blood probably was a good part of many ancient peoples of the Mid-East and North Africa. Do you have solid DNA evidence saying how Black/Brown/White the ancient Persians, Eqyptians, or Hebrews were? Greek and Roman white boys marched over whoever they were with little problem. Do your anti-white sentiments allow the stong possibility that these ancients had their gene pools contaminated with caucasian material? Non-partisan scientific testing would be helpful.
     
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    You mean I can't get away with taking pride in whites taking over the world but not feeling any shame in slavery? drats, I guess you're right... But still, I think people should be able to feel proud for whatever they want, especially in places like the US where race is like ethnicity (ie, not like europe where one identifies with the country instead)
     
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    Sure, if they feel it's awesome to butcher literally every living soul in cities that do not surrender. I was just a bit taken aback by someone being proud of "brutally pwning" which most definitely includes raping and torturing other people, among other atrocities. The reason for not being proud of it is quite obvious.
     
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    Lol... not being anti-every-other-race != being anti-white. I am proud of what I do. I am of the belief that people who need to be proud of themselves for the actions of others, don't do much to be proud of. It is a necessary shortcut to make themselves feel good about something. Strikes me as a very liberal position.
     
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    As a white person who is very much aware that racism in America is far more intense in the black community than in the white community, I cannot identify with this sentiment at all. If I'm proud of my heritage, it's because the Founding Fathers were, for the most part, lovers of liberty, not because they were white.
     

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