"White Privilege" doesn't exist

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  1. Renee

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    You said you lived with non white people most of your life...what was the make up,of your neighborhood? Don’t be so indignant.,.you made assumptions about my life style....but that’s ok
     
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    No one can "speak for African Americans" since they are not a homogenous group, but rather one of millions and millions of different individuals. It is true that I am not American, but I do know that America is not a racist place and that it - just likes the rest of the West - offers everyone equal oppurtunities.
     
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    There we go again,,,,semantics, tell that to black people in America who ask to be referred to as African Americans, after all, they’ll appreciate your telling them what they should be called. To educate you, practically all have roots in Africa
    I’m glad you know that America isn’t a racist place...gotta tell that the African Americans who experience it every day of their lives....oh wait, not ms, Jackson down the street (sarcasm alert)
     
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    There is nothing wrong with being proud to be African American just like there is nothing wrong with being proud to be a White American, or Latino American, etc.

    But the sooner we stop calling African American's black people and just call them people the better (This is true for all people of course), humanity cannot heal it's divides whilst whilst we insist of making these distinctions and we have to get this chip off our shoulder.

    Diversity in the workplace is a joke we need diversity in education then people will go the way they want to go which will lead to diversity in the workplace based on skillset and merit not on this bizarre idea of "Privilege"
     
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    Not all Black people are the same and not all Black people share the same experiences. It is impossible to speak for an entire group the way you do and it even becomes highly dangerous when you label one group "victim" and the other "perpetrator". This is where your interpretation of reality overlaps with the racist's - You both think all Blacks are alike.

    You are only representing yourself.
     
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    Look up the word generalizations . No one is speaking for every single black persons duh! It is talking for the millions of black people who are victims of bigotry. I guess that’s your way of trivialing a movement
    If we talk about dogs barking you will focus on the breed that doesn’t bark.
     
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    In that case all Blacks are criminals too and all Muslims are terrorists.
     
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    Who said that? What the hell are you talking about? You can only think in extremes and here’s just another example
     
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    Yes, lived with .. as in, in my damned house.

    I choose other than white folk, I don't just happen to live in the same street as some brown people.
     
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    Oh, so all of a sudden generalisation is bad?
     
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    No..overgeneralizing is
     
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    And claiming all Whites are privileged and all Blacks are unprivileged is not an over-generalisation?
     
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    Whoever said that? White have privileges blacks don’t have.There you go again with your extemism. Being a white make has had advantages throughout history
     
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    Pre 1600's we were all pretty much equally racist then the Europeans became technologically developed. So they could dominate other cultures with their superior technology. This is why in the last 400 years (I'm talking pre colonisation days) they're has been a domination of the white man. This has changed a lot though over the last century but purely technology has driven the racism harder because of superiority.

    People are horrible this has nothing to do with skin colour more to do with how we are raised! Most slaves were sold to the white importers by black people in the first place this does not excuse anything but it does show actually it's not so much a race thing as a human being selfish b*****d thing.

    The problem with white privilege is it solves nothing people need a hand up not a hand out and everything needs to be based on a skill set and merit not on diversity because that's not how you build a competitive society and does anyone think China is not utilising it's best of the best.

    I think we diversity in education, but the education system is broken 60%+ of people in universities should not be there getting themselves in debt on a degree that has no real world value. We need to revolutionise the education system and we need diversity in opinion in education! Diversity of skin colour is meaningless with diversity of opinion! Too difficult to be a Republican and a professor these days and that is sad. University is about expanding your mind not shrinking almost dessication!
     
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    Being a White male has never had- and still doesn't have any privileges. For the most part of history, a majority of us was poor and starving. I really cannot see what sort of "privileges" it is that you are talking about. Your understanding of sociology is ideologically biased and your historical perspective is lacking.
     
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    As i have said, My husband, a high school drop out became VP at a large Wall Street firm. He is the first one to tell you he never would have been given the opportunity to go down on the trading floor if he were black,or female, now, thank goodness, that’s changing. He knew his race helped him.
    White people aren’t followed around in stores and viewed with suspicion.
    White people can hail cabs and know they’ll get picked up.this was something written quite a while ago and happily a lot has changed....and it didn’t happen in a vacuum, .
    http://hd.ingham.org/Portals/HD/White Priviledge Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.pdf
     
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    There are plenty of republican professors....most students are liberal.
    “White privileged solves nothing”..let me guess, you’re not black.
    I’m in agreement with you that many people should not be in college and we should have more training in vocational skills.The top universities are doing great
     
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    No I don't live in the US and I went to school 80% of the to students were indian or african and because we did not have this chip on our shoulders or this illusion of privilege they have never felt they were owed anything at all and have done very well for themselves. My Indian friends in the UK laugh at white privilege in the US lol 2nd generation immigrants it's not privilege it's where they live that dictates their future. Plenty of white trash too what privilege are they suffering from?

    Do German's owe the Jews for WW2? Or Palestine for pushing so many Jews over there after ww2. This is far more recent! People aren't suffering because they're black they're suffering because they're in poverty it's not as simple as race.

    Hand ups not hand outs is the only way to heal people cannot feel respect for themselves on hand outs but they can feel pride again in hand ups.
     
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    Whatever you do.....don't tell the Hell's Angels, The DC Eagles, The Outlaws, and the Aryan Brotherhood that. :laughing:
     
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    What is white trash? What would make these white people garbage to you?. Let me guess, you’re a white person telling black People that they’re not discriminate against. And I’m sure you’re aware the UK also has race issues.
    I love your simplification of hands up not hands out. It isn’t getting help when you need it it’s getting wages that are not livable. You don’t realize it but you are stereotyping the working poor in a negative way. Maybe if they got decent wages they wouldn’t have to have “their hands out”
     
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    One major difference...they can choose not to tattoo themselves and preach hate . the supremacists want to be viewed the way they are
     
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    How is this even important?

    Anyone can.

    The only colour that matters on the market is green.

    No one can.

    Harassment is an anomaly.

    I am of an extremely rare ethnic mix, so the answer is probably no. But, I don't see why anyone would care about this.

    This depends entirely on where in the world one happens to live.

    Only a racist would care about this. Normal parents would only seek to give their children good education.

    Academia is extremely biased and publishing studies on "White Privilege" is the easiests and most conventional thing one can do.

    What?

    Most of us are raised to listen to people when they are talking and not to be rude.

    Music is universal and has no race.

    What?

    What on Earth does this have to with race?

    Anyone who does is an awful parent.

    Haha. What?

    Talking with your mouth full is rude no matter what race you happen to be of,

    What?

    What?

    The "White Privilege-crrowd" attributes everything to race and since they are the cultural hegemons it is, sadly, hard to avoid this.

    Whaat?

    This questionaire is pure trash.
     
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    Black people can similarly choose to wear appropriate clothing and dress, they can also choose to practice proper English. A white foul-mouthed person dressed as a thug will draw much more attention than a black articulate person dressed in a suit.

    Again, you are not proving ethnicity matters - just wealth.
     
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    Who defines appropriate clothes? It’s funny that white teenagers can dress anyway they want and sometimes it’s totally outrageous and they’re not called “thugs”.
    No a white kid who is not “articulate” isn’t viewed with suspicion. I do agree with you that people are judged how they speak. That is why in my class I would tell my kids that I don’t care how they speak outside of the classroom but in my classroom they had to speak standard English.
    When my daughter was young she wants asked me, “why do they always follow us in the store when I’m with Zoe?” I guess you know Zoe was black. That was my daughters introduction to racism
     
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    It’s. It a questionnaire..lol
    As I said a lot of these are obsolete as this was written probably about 30 or 40 years ago. But I, glad that you can tell black people how they feel
     

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