Who can explain soft tissue found in fossils?

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  1. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Do you actually believe that organic material can survive, not deteriorate in 10s or 100s of millions of years without the sediment layers it is found within and all the layers above it did not rot, but were not deposited rapidly in a catastrophic flood?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I got the gist of what you are attempting to sideline into, though it is difficult to understand your interpretation of the English language. Yes, I believe it possible for organic material to remain recognizable under certain conditions for extreme timeframes. No, the Earth does not and never has contained sufficient liquid to inundate all land formations at any point in it's history.

    Please do not attempt to forward the "Noahs Ark" fable, as it is far too easy to debunk.
     
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    Does this make any sense to anyone?
     
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    Science has calculated that if all the water in, and above the Earth was added to the oceans, and IF the Earth was level, the water would be over 7 miles deep. IF the Created Earth was flatter and the ocean abysses were shallower and the 'waters of the deep' sprang forth as described in Genesis and IF there was a canopy of water as described in Genesis rained for 40 days and nights, there would be more than enough water to deluge the Earth to a depth above what could have been the tallest mountains at the time.

    The geological evidence supports the Genesis Flood. A discussion re: Noahic Flood is here: http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/362221-about-noah-wooden-boat-31.html
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Not really. :truce:
     
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    He never replied to my explanation in Post #35 of how evolution is a scientific theory either.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And IF unicorns ate four leaf clovers they would fart lucky charms.
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    I know you are into evolution fantasy, but this one is funny.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah...thing is mine was intended to be funny.
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    I understand, mine is supported by scientific evidence.
     
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    What scientific evidence is there that Earth was ever flatter or that there was ever a "canopy of water" (whatever that is)?
     
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    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Did you know there are fossilized sea creatures at the summit of every mountain range in the world?

    The Genesis account tells of the Earth covered by a mist, there are predictions that can be made for the canopy and are supported. Too many to go into, and since you wouldn't bother to read the evidences, you may want to drop that one.
     
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    Have you heard about plate tectonics? Not surprising to find fossilized sea creatures in soil that was once underwater.

    Why would I want to drop it when you cannot support it?

    If the Earth was flat during the flood, then what "high mountains" are they referring to in Genesis 7:19?
     
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    Would that be the evidences you either cannot or will not provide?
     
  16. NaturalBorn

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    So you admit the mountains were underwater at one time and plate tectonics lifted the bedrock.


    With you, it just isn't worth the effort.

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    Answer the OP or concede you have nothing.
     
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    You are either blind or lacking in neural material. Read post #23.
     
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    I responded in posts 25, 32 & 76. In a debate it is now your turn to answer my rebuttal which I offered in those three posts.
     
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    I think scientists being human have said, "could not" many times. Now they may have just let it slip out being as human as you and I are.

    My biology prof in college a grad student, told the class on our very first day, that god could not have been involved in creating life, or in its evolution. After he got his phd and taught at the same university, my daughter who attended there and took his class, was told the same thing by the guy. LOL. He liked to upset the Christian students who had to take a biology class, I reckon. LOL.

    But you are right most real scientists, are very humble men,, in their fields, especially when they gather together with their peers. Lots of "ifs" and "buts". But these are hardly the sort you see on You Tube pressing forward their beliefs in regards to evolution and the question of some intelligence being involved. These are the peacocks, I guess, who like getting under the skin of those who believe in God. LOL
     
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    Yeah, I've heard that myth before. Some thing about objects that weigh kajions of tons just randomly moving around for no reason whatsoever.

    Sounds very logical.
     
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    Well, it must be possible for it was discovered. I wonder if we might find some dna in oil, or coal from the lifeforms that it came from? Perhaps we need to look there as well given what has been found in fossilized bones. Frankly, I am still astounded by the discovery, for I never thought it possible, until it became possible. So, once again, an illustration of a limited knowledge, making great claims. For it was claimed prior, that it organic material from the animal that was fossilized could not survive the millions of years, since its death. And since we had a consensus on this, of course no one really looked for it. LOL... These things of consensus should always be suspect, right? For they tend to create an end to inquiry, and in science, that doesn't seem to be a good thing.
     
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    There are a very few things in scientific pursuit that have a large enough consensus to halt further study an experimentation. In fact I cannot think of even one.
     
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    The evidence shows that just about everywhere has been underwater at sometime or another. What the evidence doesn't show is that they were underwater at the same time.

    Not even just one simple link? Doesn't say much for your argument.

    The OP has been answered. Why don't you try to answer some of the questions which have been put to you.
     
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    You asked for evidence of evolution. It's there, lots of it. What I believe and what you believe are irrelevant in the face of the evidence for evolution.
     
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    There is no evidence for evolution, only speculation. In fact, as defined by many scientists, evolution does not rise to the level of a theory.

    Walls of URL's can be provided that space aliens seeded the Earth as well. That does not elevate that story to the level of theory or fact either.
     

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